How close to being an electrician am I?

[Ross85]

Hey everyone, slightly controversial thread title to get attention!

I've emailed niceic in addition to asking on here. I'm hoping to get officially registered to design/build/test installations.

I've got an apprenticeship in an engineering subject which included LV control panel wiring. I've got a degree in electrical and electronic engineering, so I'm very competent in the theory of electrics and could definitely safely size conductors and fittings. I have no knowledge of domestic regulation but I'm completing the 18th edition next month.

Is that enough? On paper? I'm obviously going to work hard at gaining competence but I'm just trying to work out if I have enough relevant qualifications on paper.

Thanks for any help given.

 

[Pete999]

Probably if the NICEIC are concerned

 

[MDJ]

My wife could pass the multi choice BS7671 exam so that doesn't make you an electrician, several years site experience and relevent qualifications do, electronic engineering will not unfortunately.

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

If your cheque doesn't bounce then your in

 

[Andy78]

There was a time when the Niceic would let you in with your regs exam only. Now a QS has to be NVQ3 I think. Not sure though, might just be a govt recommendation that gets ignored.

 

[telectrix]

but the 18th , a bit of blagging, and a £500 cheque will see him int niceic as a domestic bodger, complete with van stickers.

 

[MDJ]

True tel, any old Muppet can become a DI, it takes training to become an Electrician.

 

[Ross85]

Thanks for the relevant replies.

With all due respect, I don't care about titles. I just want to put safe, functional installations into houses.

 

[buzzlightyear]

With all due respect, I don't care about titles. I just want to put safe, functional installations into houses.

what Wendy house ,you need hands on experience on how to and when to .because I put airfix models togather does not make me a pilot .

 

[telectrix]

contact niceic, napit, elecsa, or stroma see what they require. basically it's 18th with a couple of jobs to assess, probably need to commit to a testing qualification as well.

 

[telectrix]

what Wendy house ,you need hands on experience on how to and when to .because I put airfix models togather does not make me a pilot .

but you already are a pilot, buzz. albeit an interstellar rocket jockey.

 

[MDJ]

. albeit an interstellar Knob jockey.

No need to insult him Tel

 

[Pete999]

Crikey I thought my reply was a bit near the knuckle, but reading this lot makes me feel better.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Hey everyone, slightly controversial thread title to get attention!

I've emailed niceic in addition to asking on here. I'm hoping to get officially registered to design/build/test installations.

I've got an apprenticeship in an engineering subject which included LV control panel wiring. I've got a degree in electrical and electronic engineering, so I'm very competent in the theory of electrics and could definitely safely size conductors and fittings. I have no knowledge of domestic regulation but I'm completing the 18th edition next month.

Is that enough? On paper? I'm obviously going to work hard at gaining competence but I'm just trying to work out if I have enough relevant qualifications on paper.

Thanks for any help given.

Have you received remuneration for any electrical work yet?

 

[Powellm]

My field is aircraft electrics I rang the niceic last week asking do I need to do 2392 for them. They said no as my aircraft back ground is suitable as testing is apart of it. They said as long as I'm in before the end if Jan I can do it on my 17th edition too. So guessing no for you too then

 

[PEG]

My field is aircraft electrics I rang the niceic last week asking do I need to do 2392 for them. They said no as my aircraft back ground is suitable as testing is apart of it. They said as long as I'm in before the end if Jan I can do it on my 17th edition too. So guessing no for you too then

Please get niceic to do your first assessment on a Hercules...in flight

 

[Powellm]

Please get niceic to do your first assessment on a Hercules...in flight

I'm a rotary man so Chinook was my platform. But I can do an r1 r2 test on the fadec then fast rope to my house where he can check my radial and consumer unit change for my 2nd part.

 

[telectrix]

My field is aircraft electrics I rang the niceic last week asking do I need to do 2392 for them. They said no as my aircraft back ground is suitable as testing is apart of it. They said as long as I'm in your cheque clears before the end if Jan I can do it on my 17th edition too. So guessing no for you too then

corrected that for you.

 

[Pete999]

Please get niceic to do your first assessment on a Hercules...in flight

With the Ramp open, and nil parachutes.

 

[telectrix]

Q. how do you do a ramp test on a Hercules?
A. apprentice on a sled.

 

[MDJ]

God Help us all, part P really has improved the industry hasn't it?

 

[Pete999]

contact niceic, napit, elecsa, or stroma see what they require. basically it's 18th with a couple of jobs to assess, probably need to commit to a testing qualification as well.

And have the required amount of dosh to hand over

 

[telectrix]

'noon pete. just got back from a fault rectification for a forum member. no mentioning of names on open forum though. basically, fault fixed. guy happy.

 

[Pete999]

'noon pete. just got back from a fault rectification for a forum member. no mentioning of names on open forum though. basically, fault fixed. guy happy.

That it for the week then Tel, or are you working the weekend for smoke and beer money?

 

[MDJ]

That it for the week then Tel, or are you working the weekend for smoke and beer money?

I think we know the answer to that

 

[Pete999]

I think we know the answer to that

Yes, but a little polite conversation, among Friends on a Friday isn't a bad thing

 

[telectrix]

state pension covers essentials (beer and smokes) just. .... for luxuries like food and bills, i need to work at least 2-3 days a week.

 

[TJ Anderson]

Hey everyone, slightly controversial thread title to get attention!

I've emailed niceic in addition to asking on here. I'm hoping to get officially registered to design/build/test installations.

I've got an apprenticeship in an engineering subject which included LV control panel wiring. I've got a degree in electrical and electronic engineering, so I'm very competent in the theory of electrics and could definitely safely size conductors and fittings. I have no knowledge of domestic regulation but I'm completing the 18th edition next month.

Is that enough? On paper? I'm obviously going to work hard at gaining competence but I'm just trying to work out if I have enough relevant qualifications on paper.

Thanks for any help given.

I think one of the schemes will help you to register. Electrical theory is what it is so your knowledge is relevant and you can apply to 7671 regulations. There will be a lot of learning though but it's not that hard to be up to a jobbing level for someone sensible.

Regarding being an electrician, it is not a protected term and the definition from the Oxford dictionary is below.

electrician
/ˌɪlɛkˈtrɪʃ(ə)n,ˌɛlɛkˈtrɪʃ(ə)n,ˌiːlɛkˈtrɪʃ(ə)n/
noun

1. a person who installs and maintains electrical equipment.

When employers advertise for an Electrician however, they often refer to a JIB graded Electrician for which specific qualification criteria apply.

Hope that helps and good luck with it all

 

[MDJ]

All the qualifications in the world will not help buddy, on site experience for 2-3 years is the way forward, popcorn ready.

 

[Powellm]

All the qualifications in the world will not help buddy, on site experience for 2-3 years is the way forward, popcorn ready.

Or you tube and visual to muscle memory biology