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jerryk1234

Hello!

My electrical utility has decided to take our power away - occasionally - to prevent fires. So I have ordered a modest backup generator. To conveniently power the house without running extension cords everywhere, I need a transfer switch.

I have tentatively identified the switch I'd like to use - a Reliance exterior-rated unit, 30A, 10 circuits. It's quite wide, and will intrude into the space occupied by a telephone/cable box. But it will work if I mount it to the side of the house on 2" spacers.

The main panel is flush-mounted in the exterior stucco wall.
There is a junction box under the main panel that is surface mounted, and communicates with the main panel via a 1.5" conduit with some big wires ( which power our swimming pool, spa & sauna ). The junction box is almost empty.

I propose to mount the transfer switch next to the junction box - with a minimal length piece of conduit. Wires from the switch will go through the junction box and hence into the main panel. There will be 22 12-AWG THHN wires. Two wires for each circuit, plus a neutral, plus a ground. I believe the neutral is needed because there is a pair of wattmeters in the switch.

My question is - how do I get from the junction box into the panel? The existing conduit looks pretty full. So is the bottom of the panel. There are a couple of unused 1/2 inch punchouts, and space in a few romex clamps. There also might be a bit of legal space left in the existing 1.5" conduit - but not enough for 22 #12's!

I suppose I could run a pair of 1/2 flex conduits from the panel bottom , through the stucco, into the junction box. Doesn't look like much fun - the underside of that panel has to be just as crowded as the inside.

There is another concept that would have worked if we didn't have solar - an "interlock" - basically, an elegantly shaped piece of sheet metal mounted to the front of the panel. It slides back & forth, and guarantees that the "generator" breaker is never on at the same time as the main breaker. Can't use it because we have solar. No way to guarantee that the solar breaker isn't on at the same time as the generator breaker.

Anyway - anybody have hints or comments about how to get from the panel into the junction box?

Thanks in advance,

- jerryk1234
 

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What is on the other side of your semi-flush panel? If a garage is on the other side, put it in the garage, I am assuming the Reliance is a indoor model anyway.
 
How can they just turn the power off and say deal with it ?
 
How can they just turn the power off and say deal with it ?

If the OP is in California, PG&E, in particular but SoCal Edison, & San Diego Gas & Electric also have been doing "Public Safety Power Shutoffs" PSPS for short & when they kill the power you are on your own, I live 20 mins from Paradise CA where the deadly Camp Fire occurred in 2018, not been subjected to any PSPS but am close to the edge of the zones where they happen. They make life miserable for those who have to live through them, could be a smart aleck and say that is the price for wanting live under the trees, only good thing is they don't do the PSPS in the winter, but come late Spring, early Summer, when dry conditions & high winds occur the power will get shut off again, lots of blame to go around, nature ----'s, government, the power companies, & NIMBY's not wanting trees trimmed, all share the blame. California is rapidly heading towards a 3rd world power grid.
 

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