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is my quote to high or to low !!!! to replace existing ,shower 8.5k with minor pipe work ,new isolator pull switch ,4 meters of 6mm T+E and rcd with enclosure and minor works cert and to connect from cu to new rcd , a mornings work £ 200.00 sorry but new boy and pricing i am finding very hard to judge any advice would be really help full ( all like for like )

Rich
 
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hughesy

HI id say 4hrs labour 25per hour + £2 travel within local town + £4.50 part p + materials + VAT=total.
Hope this helps . I also add 20% onto materials .
 
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thanks hugh
 
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KFORDHUNTER

A couple of points i think should be brought to your attention, if you install a new circuit anywhere it is notifiable work, make sure you notify relevant council or be part of a scheme, if you are part of a scheme you should already know a minor works certificate is not appropriate, next point is why are you installing a shower in 6mm, really now you should only install in 10mm.

One final thing, have you checked the main bonding cables are big enough? You wouldn't want to have to do that for free when you get there later.

The price is irrelevant, different people in different areas will pay and charge different amounts, you will get a better feel for this as you go, if you get the job and you can make it pay your price is spot on.

Sorry its a bit preachy but i do feel on here sometimes the questions asked are a bit irrelevant.
 
8.5kw = 36a 6mm can be used but it will have to be on a 32a mcb/rcd and you may be pushing your luck on overload i would go 10mm and 40a
 
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you should already know a minor works certificate is not appropriate
:confused: It's replacing like for like so mwc is fine.

next point is why are you installing a shower in 6mm, really now you should only install in 10mm
:confused: why, if the calcs work out use 6mm or less..........dont get lazy use cable calcs as you should have been taught.
It's not your job to worry about future proofing.

One final thing, have you checked the main bonding cables are big enough
Agree should be the first thing you look at.
 
next point is why are you installing a shower in 6mm, really now you should only install in 10mm.


where does it say you should now only install 10mm :confused::confused:

do the cable calcs and install the correct cable for the job= 6mm ;)

8.5kw = 36a 6mm can be used but it will have to be on a 32a mcb/rcd and you may be pushing your luck on overload i would go 10mm and 40a
not sure how you worked that out mark Ib is 37amps, 6mm clipped direct holds 47amps :confused::eek::confused:
 
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sorry only asked a question even though you may think its daft its better to ask than get it wrong thanks to every one for nice respnses d,ont for get you all have to start some where

i would beleive this is minor works and also as minor works you only have ro make a note on the cert if there is even bonding present then its up to customer you inform by writing too them am i correct as there is all ready a shower circuit up and running and i am only replacing like for like??

so 6mm T+E on 32amcb in cu supplying 63a 30m/A rcd is correct on a 8.5 kw shower
 
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sorry flukey 37 amps (almost):)
i know what you are saying i guess its just a bit of overkill on my part i just wouldnt put an 8.5 on 6mm:eek:
 
sorry flukey 37 amps (almost):)
i know what you are saying i guess its just a bit of overkill on my part i just wouldnt put an 8.5 on 6mm:eek:
no worries mark ;)
not sure why you wouldnt put 8.5kw on 6mm though as the figures are well in with under 2volts volt drop as well :confused: do the calcs thats what you trained for ;)

sorry only asked a question even though you may think its daft its better to ask than get it wrong thanks to every one for nice respnses d,ont for get you all have to start some where

i would beleive this is minor works and also as minor works you only have ro make a note on the cert if there is even bonding present then its up to customer you inform by writing too them am i correct as there is all ready a shower circuit up and running and i am only replacing like for like??

so 6mm T+E on 32amcb in cu supplying 63a 30m/A rcd is correct on a 8.5 kw shower
sounds good to me tuckermot, although your price seems a bit on the low side to me :eek:
 
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Hi fluky i am new to quoting and yes i know that prices can vary i have re worked parts ,accessories out and parts alone are £139.00 so 4 hours At £25 makes new quote at £239.00 also as its minor works cert can you still go ahead and install replace shower if bonding is only 6mm or no bonding at all of the services do you just make recomendation on cert ??
 
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Spudnik

Main bonding MUST be in place before you carry out any works.
 
Hi fluky i am new to quoting and yes i know that prices can vary i have re worked parts ,accessories out and parts alone are £139.00 so 4 hours At £25 makes new quote at £239.00 also as its minor works cert can you still go ahead and install replace shower if bonding is only 6mm or no bonding at all of the services do you just make recomendation on cert ??
hi
i wouldnt do on minor works as it seems you are in fact running a new circuit from cu irrespective if theres already a shower in place :confused:
eic and upgrade bonding if necessary imho ;)
 
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hi just replacing 6mm for new 6mm on the same route to showre

Hi just replacing 6mm for new 6mm t+e on the same route to the shower you say that is a eic cert
 
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hi just replacing 6mm for new 6mm on the same route to showre

Hi just replacing 6mm for new 6mm t+e on the same route to the shower you say that is a eic cert
silly question but why are you replacing :confused:
i would say replacing mcb, circuit cable, rcd and switching would be a new circuit
 
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i need to chop into the cable to fit rcd unit between cu and islator and as it is only a 3mtre cable to the shower and i would need to fit junction boxes to extend to fit rcd unit in i feel its easyer just to replace cable also are you sure its not a mwc
 
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i need to chop into the cable to fit rcd unit between cu and islator and as it is only a 3mtre cable to the shower and i would need to fit junction boxes to extend to fit rcd unit in i feel its easyer just to replace cable also are you sure its not a mwc
not if i was doing it, eic all the way ;)
 
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ok fluky thanks for help
 
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hughesy

A couple of points i think should be brought to your attention, if you install a new circuit anywhere it is notifiable work, make sure you notify relevant council or be part of a scheme, if you are part of a scheme you should already know a minor works certificate is not appropriate, next point is why are you installing a shower in 6mm, really now you should only install in 10mm.

One final thing, have you checked the main bonding cables are big enough? You wouldn't want to have to do that for free when you get there later.

The price is irrelevant, different people in different areas will pay and charge different amounts, you will get a better feel for this as you go, if you get the job and you can make it pay your price is spot on.

Sorry its a bit preachy but i do feel on here sometimes the questions asked are a bit irrelevant.
He asked for advice on pricing not how to do his job

i need to chop into the cable to fit rcd unit between cu and islator and as it is only a 3mtre cable to the shower and i would need to fit junction boxes to extend to fit rcd unit in i feel its easyer just to replace cable also are you sure its not a mwc
If you replace the cable its definatley a eic.
 
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He asked for advice on pricing not how to do his job



If you replace the cable its definatley a eic.
you can replace the cable on a minor works.;)
the fact that nearly all of the circuit, no, sorry all of the circuit is being replaced is the reason i would eic it :p
 
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hughesy

you can replace the cable on a minor works.;)
the fact that nearly all of the circuit, no, sorry all of the circuit is being replaced is the reason i would eic it :p
Lets take another example if i rewire someones house lights using the existing light fitings and switches therefor only replacing the cable can i put that on a minor works too
 
Lets take another example if i rewire someones house lights using the existing light fitings and switches therefor only replacing the cable can i put that on a minor works too
no but if you read part p all will become clear. or page 18 electricians guide to the building regulations, but surely i shouldnt be telling you this as your a spark working to part p :confused::confused::eek:

if your having trouble finding details hughesy let me know and i will post them for you ;)

i take it you are not a spark :confused: as thats a really daft question if you are :rolleyes:
 
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Lets take another example if i rewire someones house lights using the existing light fitings and switches therefor only replacing the cable can i put that on a minor works too
no but if you read part p all will become clear. or page 18 electricians guide to the building regulations, but surely i shouldnt be telling you this as your a spark working to part p :confused::confused::eek:

if your having trouble finding details hughesy let me know and i will post them for you ;)

i take it you are not a spark :confused: as thats a really daft question if you are :rolleyes:
Flukey, Hughesy was being ironic and is in fact agreeing with you.
Of course he wasn't serious in what he said, he was making a very good point in response to some of the reasons put forward on this thread for issuing a mwc and not a eic.
 
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Flukey, Hughesy was being ironic and is in fact agreeing with you.
Of course he wasn't serious in what he said, he was making a very good point in response to some of the reasons put forward on this thread for issuing a mwc and not a eic.
sorry andy must have missed that. sensible answers to sensible questions is the way i play it ;)
looking at his previous posts he appears to be being awkward in his answers :confused:
 
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hughesy

no but if you read part p all will become clear. or page 18 electricians guide to the building regulations, but surely i shouldnt be telling you this as your a spark working to part p :confused::confused::eek:

if your having trouble finding details hughesy let me know and i will post them for you ;)

i take it you are not a spark :confused: as thats a really daft question if you are :rolleyes:
alright mate i fully agreed with all your post in this thread regarding using 6mm etc you was spot on with all you said , but your last post about me is (NO SWEARING), when i first read this thread he was only putting a 6mm from cu to the new rcd and installing a shower switch so when i then read he was replacing the whole cable i said if you are replacing the cable its definatley an eic but this was on top of allready knowing he was replacing the switch and adding an rcd so maybe i should of put (if you are replacing the cable ASWELL its definatley an eic), and on my last post there should of been a smiley face at the end but clicked the one at the bottom of the screen and it didnt come up so sorry mate wasnt trying to be awkward . would you mind taking a look at my thread ( bonding in a horse arena) not had much feedback and could do with some advice.:)
 
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