Question?

[ahmedahmedahmed]

i am really sorry

yes i mean neutral

 

[Phil]

try here

 

[Phil]

i am really sorry

yes i mean neutral

no need to appologise as i am sure your english is better than we could type the language you speak

 

[Risteard]

no need to appologise as i am sure your english is better than we could type the language you speak

Arabic.

 

[Knobhead]

Looks like you’ve been infiltrated by students wanting the answer to their homework.

I’m a member of other engineering boards where it’s a constant problem sorting the students homework from an engineer in genuine need.

It’s got to the stage that some members will give a quite long and plausible explanation which when you read it, your convinced their telling the truth. It’s total male bovine excrement!

Funny though!

 

[ringer]

Tony, are you suggesting that we somehow filter out these students and not answer their questions? Did you not at some point in life be a 'student' yourself? Should we totally allow students to have a single source of information - i.e. college lecturers? Some real life answers from working electricians, rather than totally college based information, will surely give a more balanced set of information. It is up to the student to make his own assessment of the accuracy and integrity of the information he is offered, no matter what the source. I am sure that we can all learn something new every day, even if it is recognising when someone has got their wires crossed and misunderstands a situation. I for one like these forums for the different view points and have learnt a great deal from them. We are all (or should be) forever students of our chosen field.

 

[Knobhead]

I would never hold back on information. But as to giving the “answer” yes I would.

How do you learn, by study, by asking questions and at times by trial and error. I was lucky in my apprenticeship we had the facilities and the people that gave me the opportunity to try things, OK the tradesmen and Forman would be standing back watching me so I didn’t do any harm to myself or do to much damage.

The last apprentice I had, I had a great time with him and believe me I learnt as much as he did. He had me digging out textbooks I’d never opened for 25 years. If I asked the company for time out with him they would grant it. The senior electrical engineer watched one of our sessions and took me on one side afterwards. “Your bloody mad, but he won’t forget that in a hurry”. We set fire to a transformer by over loading it. Combined electrical theory (transformer protection) along with practical fire fighting! (It was an old transformer due for scrap).

You have to ask questions to learn, but don’t expect the answer given on a plate.

 

[ahmedahmedahmed]

to tony

I am not student in school or university
but as ringer said , In the life all of us will still learn and learn

Thanks all for care