Testing during a consumer unit change

[Markyd]

what did i do wrong

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

out of interest i believe most of the best practice guides have just been updated and are available for download. a few changes in them

 

[Midwest]

My point is, I'm not sure I would of got away with charging for a full EICR, and then full price for a CU, in the domestic market.

 

[Pete999]

Whats the point of changing a CU if you hav'nt tested for problems first......

https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/media/2146/bpg1.pdf

 

[Pete999]

https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/media/2146/bpg1.pdf

Just for those who haven't bothered to read it, I believe it's a recommendation to the customer that an EICR is advisable.

 

[Midwest]

Just for those who haven't bothered to read it, I believe it's a recommendation to the customer that an EICR is advisable.

The Electrical Safety Council is a Registered Charity; my old business wasn't.

 

[westward10]

The installation must be left safe for continued use which will require a certain amount of testing, there is no way around it.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

You’ll need to test the tails being connected to the new CU.
Inspect the earthing and bonding to ensure they are adequate.
Test any RCDs or RCBOs you install, and test any circuits below 16A to ensure Zs is low enough. Unless of course, the board you are changing has MCBs.
Which out for borrowed neutrals on the lighting.

 

[cliffed]

Agree with above...do the obvious,like so many as said,offer a full Eicr,with DB change,if not basic testing.
If you’ve got tight arse people,it’s gotta be better than it was when originally installed.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I do not usually carry out R1+R2 tests on board changes. That test is really initial verification and obviously the circuit has already been energised. As long as Zs readings are as expected then that is normally sufficient to verify compliance IMO.

 

[JK-Electrical]

Do you charge that separately, or is that inclusive of the price for a CU change?

The EICR is included within the overall cost of the upgrade, not charged for separately.

 

[JK-Electrical]

My point is, I'm not sure I would of got away with charging for a full EICR, and then full price for a CU, in the domestic market.

I don't win every CU upgrade that I quote for as there is always going to be someone cheaper. But the same is true of every other type of job, not just CU upgrades.

 

[Midwest]

Do you charge that separately, or is that inclusive of the price for a CU change?

I only ask, as some, for an EICR, appear to charge fixed price & in addition price per circuit?

As we're in open forum, lets say a silly price of £500 & £50 per circuit for the EICR, then £1000 for the CU change (normal 3 bed domestic property, dual RCD CU).

I just used just charge the £1000. However, I'd carry out some suitable testing, the day or so before.

The EICR is included within the overall cost of the upgrade, not charged for separately.

So you have an additional charge for the EICR, and then the charge for the CU change?

Therefore you charge £1500+ for your CU changes, whereas I charge £1000.

 

[JK-Electrical]

So you have an additional charge for the EICR, and then the charge for the CU change?

Therefore you charge £1500+ for your CU changes, whereas I charge £1000.

No.

I allocate a whole day for the job to be done. I carry-out a full EICR in the morning. Assuming that all is well and remedial work is not required; the actual board change, final testing and certification is done in the afternoon. If remedial work is required, it will be quoted for separately and completed before I proceed with the board change.

To determine the price that will be charged for the EICR and CU upgrade, my hourly rate is multiplied by the hours that I'm likely to be on the job then added to the cost of materials. Most of the time I complete the job ahead of schedule, but there will be times when I have to work longer than intended. Swings and roundabouts.

If only I could charge £1500 or even a grand for a CU upgrade and EICR. In my dreams! Alas, the market in the Glasgow area won't pay anywhere near those prices. My business operates in a marketplace and geolocation that is absolutely saturated. One way that I deal with this intense competition is to trade on my good reputation and emphasise the quality and safety of my workmanship. While the cost of a job is obviously an important factor when deciding who to hire, customer confidence is equally important.

This is my model. Works for me.

 

[Midwest]

No.

I allocate a whole day for the job to be done. I carry-out a full EICR in the morning. Assuming that all is well and remedial work is not required; the actual board change, final testing and certification is done in the afternoon. If remedial work is required, it will be quoted for separately and completed before I proceed with the board change.

To determine the price that will be charged for the EICR and CU upgrade, my hourly rate is multiplied by the hours that I'm likely to be on the job then added to the cost of materials. Most of the time I complete the job ahead of schedule, but there will be times when I have to work longer than intended. Swings and roundabouts.

If only I could charge £1500 or even a grand for a CU upgrade and EICR. In my dreams! Alas, the market in the Glasgow area won't pay anywhere near those prices. My business operates in a marketplace and geolocation that is absolutely saturated. One way that I deal with this intense competition is to trade on my good reputation and emphasise the quality and safety of my workmanship. While the cost of a job is obviously an important factor when deciding who to hire, customer confidence is equally important.

This is my model. Works for me.

The figures I gave were hypothetical; we are in an open forum, don't want to give away our prices & measly profit!

I know some charge £--- for an EICR, then charge £--- for a CU replacement. I wouldn't of been able to do that. So my price was just the price for the CU replacement, which varied on the size of the new CU, number of circuits, bonding etc. Testing before & after was included in that.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

No.

I allocate a whole day for the job to be done. I carry-out a full EICR in the morning. Assuming that all is well and remedial work is not required; the actual board change, final testing and certification is done in the afternoon. If remedial work is required, it will be quoted for separately and completed before I proceed with the board change.

To determine the price that will be charged for the EICR and CU upgrade, my hourly rate is multiplied by the hours that I'm likely to be on the job then added to the cost of materials. Most of the time I complete the job ahead of schedule, but there will be times when I have to work longer than intended. Swings and roundabouts.

If only I could charge £1500 or even a grand for a CU upgrade and EICR. In my dreams! Alas, the market in the Glasgow area won't pay anywhere near those prices. My business operates in a marketplace and geolocation that is absolutely saturated. One way that I deal with this intense competition is to trade on my good reputation and emphasise the quality and safety of my workmanship. While the cost of a job is obviously an important factor when deciding who to hire, customer confidence is equally important.

This is my model. Works for me.

I very much doubt I could do a full EICR and a board change in a day, unless it was a very small house.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I have known of people conducting EICERs then offering to deduct the cost of the EICR from the work.
Whether they do that, or just add the cost of the EICR to the cost of the work, I don’t know.

 

[Pete999]

I have known of people conducting EICERs then offering to duct the cost of the EICR from the work.
Whether they do that, or just add the cost of the EICR to the cost of the work, I don’t know.

What size duct SL

 

[Deleted member 26818]

What size duct SL

De.

 

[Pete999]

De.

I know Mate just had to