What training course I will need to do my job safely?

[LordKelvin]

For example this course?

Electrical Maintenance Training - Electrical Maintenance Courses - Tinson Training

or

[url]http://www.tinsontraining.co.uk/electrical-courses/electrical-fault-finding-training/
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[LordKelvin]

https://www.pilz.com/en-GB/services/trainings/seminars/articles/074213

this will be more expensive so I dont know if they will pay it for me..... it might be enough one of the first two??? This last one looks like more tailored for what I need....... :icon_bs:

 

[Richard Burns]

You are correct the Pilz one is much more the sort of thing that you would need, the wording and the approach seem much more in line with what I would expect.

But the tinson one (with the one above it in the list) might be OK, it will not lead to a qualification but should be good as continuous professional development.

 

[LordKelvin]

You are correct the Pilz one is much more the sort of thing that you would need, the wording and the approach seem much more in line with what I would expect.

But the tinson one (with the one above it in the list) might be OK, it will not lead to a qualification but should be good as continuous professional development.

Electrical Maintenance Training - Electrical Maintenance Courses - Tinson Training

you meant this?

If I ask for both the Tinson I will pay more than the Pilz one though!



So the thing is if they do not want to spend too much for this courses...Will it be enough just ONE of Tinson?? I mean if the training value is in a ratio 3:1 (Pilzer:Tinson)...I must go for Pilzer....


Please note that I do not mind at all a qualification...just to have a good course that will allow me to be safe!!

 

[Richard Burns]

If you truly want to be safe then you would need to do a long course or be mentored over a long period by an experienced person.
As you say you would not get an expensive course approved then you will not have a comprehensive knowledge simple as that.

However if you do some short one day courses this may give you enough knowledge to be able to assess more fully the actual courses that you would need to be safe.

TUV SUD have a free downloadable guide to machinery safety, a free half day workshop, full day training courses (£225 30 d in advance), Machinery safety essentials, electrical machinery safety.

Conformance have a one day course on safety control systems (£350)
HSL have one day courses in Buxton for machinery supply and PUWER (£395)

perhaps some of these may help to steer you in the direction of better training courses and also give you a powerful argument why you need the course, because you then know what you need.

 

[LordKelvin]

If you truly want to be safe then you would need to do a long course or be mentored over a long period by an experienced person.
As you say you would not get an expensive course approved then you will not have a comprehensive knowledge simple as that.

However if you do some short one day courses this may give you enough knowledge to be able to assess more fully the actual courses that you would need to be safe.

TUV SUD have a free downloadable guide to machinery safety, a free half day workshop, full day training courses (£225 30 d in advance), Machinery safety essentials, electrical machinery safety.

Conformance have a one day course on safety control systems (£350)
HSL have one day courses in Buxton for machinery supply and PUWER (£395)

perhaps some of these may help to steer you in the direction of better training courses and also give you a powerful argument why you need the course, because you then know what you need.

and reading books will not help enough?

 

[Richard Burns]

Remember I do not know your level of capability the type of machines you wish to repair/install or your current training level.

It is possible that reading books will be enough to ensure that you can understand the theory and then you could look for a practical course or mentor with someone experienced in your company to hone this knowledge.
It is unlikely that reading alone will be enough to ensure you are fully competent, but if you already have basic level of electrical knowledge and are good at learning and applying the learning then it could be enough.

 

[LordKelvin]

Remember I do not know your level of capability the type of machines you wish to repair/install or your current training level.

It is possible that reading books will be enough to ensure that you can understand the theory and then you could look for a practical course or mentor with someone experienced in your company to hone this knowledge.
It is unlikely that reading alone will be enough to ensure you are fully competent, but if you already have basic level of electrical knowledge and are good at learning and applying the learning then it could be enough.

I am good at learning.

I do not have mentor in the company.

I will try to push for the best course possible and reading then a lot.
They like the course from Tinson so I could easily push for ONE of the two...they are 3 days not 1 day so they might be ok??

what do you advice between the two if I have to choose, as I will????

I am really appreciating your support

 

[Richard Burns]

It is a pity that you do not have someone to bounce ideas off, it does make things easier.

The two courses are actually fairly similar one focuses more on the testing for electrical faults and the other on understanding the components.

As you are already a mechanical engineer I would assume you do know how things work in general even if you are not up to speed with the electrical side, if this is the case then I would say the course covering more of the testing i.e. the electrical fault finding one would be of more use.

You must be aware of the regulations in place for what you are going to be doing so that your company is not liable in case of problems.

You can read up on the components specific to your machines.

 

[LordKelvin]

It is a pity that you do not have someone to bounce ideas off, it does make things easier.

The two courses are actually fairly similar one focuses more on the testing for electrical faults and the other on understanding the components.

As you are already a mechanical engineer I would assume you do know how things work in general even if you are not up to speed with the electrical side, if this is the case then I would say the course covering more of the testing i.e. the electrical fault finding one would be of more use.

You must be aware of the regulations in place for what you are going to be doing so that your company is not liable in case of problems.

You can read up on the components specific to your machines.

I know I am a bit a solitaire fighter lol :mad2::mad2::mad2:

I have all the spec for all the components in the machines so I could read that.

plus I could read all the regulations and standard that concern my machines.

In addition of all this I could so attempt that fault finding course.

Will this be "good enough" in your opinion or I have to push stronger to have something like the Pilz course?? Sincerely.... Thanks for your patience