What's the answer to this problem?

[Midwest]

I don't know what you lot are banging on about, there is already legislation in place to ensure electrical installation work (England & Wales) is carried out in a domestic property, and make sure that the work is designed and installed to protect people from fire and electric shocks,............Part P. Failure to comply, can result in an unlimited fine at Magistrates Court.

Its ultimately the home owners responsibility to ensure the Building Regs are complied with. Granted the policing of this particular building regulation, seems to be an unmitigated failure.

Someone mentioned an 'MOT test' for a domestic property; look at the procedures in place for policing vehicle MOT's, and can't see that as a starter (excuse the pun).

 

[Octopus]

Part P is irrelevant.

Making changes in domestic properties should meet the design, installation, testing and certification as laid down in BS 7671

These folls don't even make sure their so called competent members do this.

 

[Pete999]

Part P is irrelevant.

Making changes in domestic properties should meet the design, installation, testing and certification as laid down in BS 7671

These folls don't even make sure their so called competent members do this.

Deleted to contraversial, Not you Murdoch

 

[Octopus]

Deleted to contraversial, Not you Murdoch

Send it to me on a pm .....

 

[Squid]

Weren't homes going to have an "MOT" then the idea got canned, called HIP's

 

[Percyprod]

Yes the legislation is there, but not used. When did you last see some one in court for an illegal wiring installation? System is too easy to work round.

 

[PEG]

A system already exists,to enable the competence of an individual,to be assessed...it's called a "ducking stool"...but out of all the "trials by ordeal",my personal favourite,is "trial by cake"

 

[Octopus]

^^ shouldn’t that be by trial of biscuit ..... ?

 

[stevels4]

On watch dog last night they were claiming that the people who fit the smart meters were doing checks and identifying dangerous situations ,i think all they do is plug in a socket tester, maybe if you don't have a current eicr or eic you have to have an eicr before the smart meter is fitted.

My procedure is to test for correct polarity at the cut out,meter and CU then a socket test for the same and earth presence. A visual check is also carried out and cut out/ meter tails upgraded to 25mm as required. An isolator (this becomes the boundary point between Mocopa and BS7671) is fitted where the meter to CU tails are for example considered underrated or VIR.
The customer is then issued with a warning notice listing the defects and recommending that a qualified electrician is sought to rectify the defects present.

 

[Percyprod]

I assume you are authorised to carry out this work? Doesn't come under bs7671

 

[Pete999]

My procedure is to test for correct polarity at the cut out,meter and CU then a socket test for the same and earth presence. A visual check is also carried out and cut out/ meter tails upgraded to 25mm as required. An isolator (this becomes the boundary point between Mocopa and BS7671) is fitted where the meter to CU tails are for example considered underrated or VIR.
The customer is then issued with a warning notice listing the defects and recommending that a qualified electrician is sought to rectify the defects present.

Would have thought a Polarity test at the CU on the tails, and then an EICR would be all that is required to prove polarity.

 

[Pete999]

My procedure is to test for correct polarity at the cut out,meter and CU then a socket test for the same and earth presence. A visual check is also carried out and cut out/ meter tails upgraded to 25mm as required. An isolator (this becomes the boundary point between Mocopa and BS7671) is fitted where the meter to CU tails are for example considered underrated or VIR.
The customer is then issued with a warning notice listing the defects and recommending that a qualified electrician is sought to rectify the defects present.

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[Percyprod]

Do you only not go into the cut out, but yboun test on the incoming side? Not your place to do any of this. Changing meter and cut out tails? Bloody hell, who do you think you are!

 

[ipf]

Do you only not go into the cut out, but yboun test on the incoming side? Not your place to do any of this. Changing meter and cut out tails? Bloody hell, who do you think you are!

I think you should stick to changing meters, Perc

 

[MFS Electrical]

I don't know what you lot are banging on about, there is already legislation in place to ensure electrical installation work (England & Wales) is carried out in a domestic property, and make sure that the work is designed and installed to protect people from fire and electric shocks,............Part P. Failure to comply, can result in an unlimited fine at Magistrates Court.

Its ultimately the home owners responsibility to ensure the Building Regs are complied with. Granted the policing of this particular building regulation, seems to be an unmitigated failure.

Someone mentioned an 'MOT test' for a domestic property; look at the procedures in place for policing vehicle MOT's, and can't see that as a starter (excuse the pun).

Though there is no such scheme in Scotland and as much as I know which to be honest is not much about part p is it does not reach far enough

 

[Flanders]

My procedure is to test for correct polarity at the cut out,meter and CU then a socket test for the same and earth presence. A visual check is also carried out and cut out/ meter tails upgraded to 25mm as required. An isolator (this becomes the boundary point between Mocopa and BS7671) is fitted where the meter to CU tails are for example considered underrated or VIR.
The customer is then issued with a warning notice listing the defects and recommending that a qualified electrician is sought to rectify the defects present.

That good at least somthing being done ,do you not check the terminals in the consumer unit (if its next to the cut out) to see if they have worked loose durring the meter replacement ?

 

[pirate]

What is the answer to this problem?

I dunno, really...this works for me...