Whats your view on this wiska box

[Welchyboy1]

Brought the sheath of SWA inside the wiska and used 60a connector block to maintain continuity of armour using stuffing glands

Really effective for eliminating leaks, only used it for garden lighting

Imo superior to swa gland for water ingress (if you cant fix the box to an upright surface)

But cant help thinking its a semi-bodge!

What do you think nasty Bodge job or ok?

Please dont mention wiska gel I hate the stuff

 

[littlespark]

have fun getting the lid on

 

[telectrix]

crap with a capital K.

 

[James]

A good quality outdoor swa gland will seal well, normally it is creep in the plastic boxes that causes leaks.

If you want a true sealed system, use a steel or stainless ip 67 box

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Rough as a bears arse that!! If your worried about water ingress from a CW gland, use a storm gland.
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Also 3mm sleeving would have looked better than that 4mm

 

[westward10]

It is a bodge, why isn't the armour connected to the cpcs.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Might aswell ask why you don’t like magic gel.

 

[Dave OCD]

I just knew the original post wouldn't go down too well.

 

[7029 dave]

mmm, dont like plastic boxes for this full stop, IMO would of used a galv AB.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Total bodge. The Wiska box is designed to take SWA glands and Wiska make these earth bars yo make it a proper job.

Wiska Earth Clamp Bar for SWA Glands for WK308 | Wiska (TLC308)

 

[Welchyboy1]

I just knew the original post wouldn't go down too well.

Yeah thought it was a bit of a risky one! Lol!

 

[Taylortwocities]

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[Pretty Mouth]

Brought the sheath of SWA inside the wiska and used 60a connector block to maintain continuity of armour using stuffing glands

Really effective for eliminating leaks, only used it for garden lightingView attachment 60884

Imo superior to swa gland for water ingress (if you cant fix the box to an upright surface)

But cant help thinking its a semi-bodge!

What do you think nasty Bodge job or ok?

Please dont mention wiska gel I hate the stuff

I looked at a garden lighting job a while back that would have involved lots of buried SWA joints, and I have to admit I did contemplate this as a option (filled with magic gel as well). I nearly asked if it was ok on the forum, but bottled it cos I knew I'd get a kicking! I didn't get the job before anyone asks.

What problems do people think may occur from connecting the armour in this way?

 

[Dustydazzler]

Fill it with quick dry cement , wrap it in some old carpet and bury in the ground...and NEVER speak about this ever again....

 

[Grant1987]

I looked at a garden lighting job a while back that would have involved lots of buried SWA joints, and I have to admit I did contemplate this as a option (filled with magic gel as well). I nearly asked if it was ok on the forum, but bottled it cos I knew I'd get a kicking! I didn't get the job before anyone asks.

What problems do people think may occur from connecting the armour in this way?

Outdoor lighting jobs with up lighters buried in ground can be a potch and always have a niggling doubt of water ingress aswell as all other outside lights always a huge factor in rcds/mcbs tripping. You need to make sure that the connections are not buried and lost forever lol the uplighters have a pot the cable goes into aswell as bollard lights and all others but they often don’t allow much room for termination I smother mine in plenty of silicone in recent years and have had no call backs as yet where as prior to me doing this just by trusting the manufacturers ip integrity without additional sealing I had call backs from water getting into fittings. Potchy jobs outdoor lighting

 

[ipf]

Yeah thought it was a bit of a Wisky one! Lol!

A correction there!!!!!

 

[richy3333]

Are your talking about an electrical junction or a body ?

 

[Welchyboy1]

Outdoor lighting jobs with up lighters buried in ground can be a potch and always have a niggling doubt of water ingress aswell as all other outside lights always a huge factor in rcds/mcbs tripping. You need to make sure that the connections are not buried and lost forever lol the uplighters have a pot the cable goes into aswell as bollard lights and all others but they often don’t allow much room for termination I smother mine in plenty of silicone in recent years and have had no call backs as yet where as prior to me doing this just by trusting the manufacturers ip integrity without additional sealing I had call backs from water getting into fittings. Potchy jobs outdoor lighting

My thoughts exactly

Its all very well suggesting pratley boxes and storm glands etc as an ideal solution (which they are by the way) until youve got 25 junctions to do and show the quote to the customer

I do always cover the connections in silicon and add a bit around gland threads light fitting rims and box lid covers and it really seems to work well

How many call outs have you had when a customer has spent thousands on landscaping the garden, but the electrics installed has not lasted the first winter due to crap joints full of water

 

[Zerax]

Rough as a bears arse that!!

Is a bear's arse rougher than a badger's arse ? If so, I agree.

 

[James]

This is likely to outlast the lights you put in

Underground Tee Joint Kit 2

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Its all very well suggesting pratley boxes and storm glands etc as an ideal solution (which they are by the way) until youve got 25 junctions to do and show the quote to the customer

Agreed. Somebody recommended the pratleys filled with gel to me as a solution, but you're looking at ~ £40 per junction on materials.

 

[pc1966]

Is a bear's arse rougher than a badger's arse ? If so, I agree.

I don't think I want to find out!

 

[Welchyboy1]

This is likely to outlast the lights you put in

Underground Tee Joint Kit 2

£40 per joint u aint winning that job son!

 

[telectrix]

what's wrong with a choc block and tape? cheap as chips and will last till the cheque clears.

 

[westward10]

It is very difficult to keep nature out as water is a natural solvent.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

This is likely to outlast the lights you put in

Underground Tee Joint Kit 2

The downside to these is that when the lights do give up, you can't re-enter the joint to fit the new ones

 

[Dustydazzler]

40 quid per joint just on materials won’t hold much water with my customers

 

[telectrix]

It is very difficult to keep nature out as water is a natural solvent.

don't know. never snorted water.

 

[westward10]

Problem with Wiska boxes is that they are IP66 so in theory they are not suitable for short periods submerged in water with being in rain sodden soil they would be.

 

[James]

40 quid per joint just on materials won’t hold much water with my customers

Spend 1000’s on new decking or paving out the garden, but then winge about doing the electrical work correctly.

Do it cheep, do it twice.

 

[NateCreekside]

Re pricing: if the customer wants something that needs 20+ junctions, buried or not, it's going to cost them. Be clear and price accordingly, don't short change yourself.
If asked to lay porcelain instead of sandstone, damn right I'm charging more.

 

[Taylortwocities]

The Pratley boxes are cheaper than £40!

 

[Pretty Mouth]

The Pratley boxes are cheaper than £40!

From where? I'm seeing £32.22 on TLC for a 3 way. By the time you've filled em up with gel + wagos you won't be far off

 

[Welchyboy1]

what's wrong with a choc block and tape? cheap as chips and will last till the cheque clears.

Forget that Ive now added additional protection to the circuit so its fine!

 

[ruston]

Maybe a yellow flashing light on the top of the bucket and a little yellow tape tied around the middle into a bow would set that off nicely.