Hi, apologies if im having a bald moment but anyone know why Ib effects vd ? is it related to ohms law ? 

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Now you put it like that makes absolute sense, really should have known. Im becoming complacent doing the formulas / cable calcs that the principles are eluding me. I hope I dont go bald ! Thanks for the refresher !At that current the impedance of the cable results in a drop in voltage