UK Wiring in soundproofing.

[DaveW4]

Hi, I hope you are all well. I want to ask if there are any considerations to wiring if installed in a cavity wall with soundproofing? Also, do sockets, etc. need to be incased with putty or sealed with sealant?

 

[pc1966]

Have you any information on the soundproofing material?

Certainly cable needs to be de-rated to allow for thermal insulation and the most obvious thing to do from an electrical point of view is to assume the acoustic material is the same as it is unlikely to be better as thermal insulation!

Not sure about your point on the sockets. Are you concerned with fire-retardant stuff or is this about maintaining the acoustic properties of the wall?

 

[DaveW4]

Have you any information on the soundproofing material?

Certainly cable needs to be de-rated to allow for thermal insulation and the most obvious thing to do from an electrical point of view is to assume the acoustic material is the same as it is unlikely to be better as thermal insulation!

Not sure about your point on the sockets. Are you concerned with fire-retardant stuff or is this about maintaining the acoustic properties of the wall?

No info

Have you any information on the soundproofing material?

Certainly cable needs to be de-rated to allow for thermal insulation and the most obvious thing to do from an electrical point of view is to assume the acoustic material is the same as it is unlikely to be better as thermal insulation!

Not sure about your point on the sockets. Are you concerned with fire-retardant stuff or is this about maintaining the acoustic properties of the wall?

No info on the material yet. Yes, I was wondering about them being weak spots in the sound insulation.

 

[telectrix]

you opening a S&M dungeon?

 

[DaveW4]

you opening a S&M dungeon?

Is that any way for a mentor to speak to a newbie, are you grooming me?

 

[telectrix]

Is that any way for a mentor to speak to a newbie, are you grooming me?

just my usual twisted humour/banter. no offence intended.

 

[DaveW4]

just my usual twisted humour/banter. no offence intended.

None taken, filthbag!

 

[telectrix]

None taken, filthbag!

flattery will get you nowhere. .
just remember, this is a serious forum. We have to use a bit of decorum, else the mods. will flog us.

 

[DaveW4]

flattery will get you nowhere.

So about this dungeon idea...

 

[pc1966]

I have never used one, but you do get back boxes that claim both fire & sound properties:

2 Gang 35mm Fire & Acoustic Metal Dry Lining Plasterboard Box | Scolmore (WA4235)

[automerge]1587389525[/automerge]

Not sure about how you get the cables in though, for best sound proofing you might need to seal it to the material, or use one of the glands that take T&E, etc.

20mm Compression Gland for 1.5 & 2.5mm Twin & Earth | Pratley (75006)

[automerge]1587390215[/automerge]
Some glands claim to be LSF so presumably also a degree of fire retardant behaviour:

Wiska Sprint 2.5-4mm Plastic Flat Cable Gland LSF 20mm

Wiska Sprint Plastic Flat Cable Gland provides a solution for the wiring of the new Amendment 3 compliant consumer unitsKey FeaturesInsert suitable for flat cable 2.5mm and 4mm Vibration resistant IP68, halogen free High temperature 960&deg

www.builderdepot.co.uk

 

[DaveW4]

I have never used one, but you do get back boxes that claim both fire 7 sound properties:

2 Gang 35mm Fire & Acoustic Metal Dry Lining Plasterboard Box | Scolmore (WA4235)

[automerge]1587389525[/automerge]

Sound a good one to me, I'm sure I can get some help! I have friends in low places you know...

I will take a look at the boxes, cheers. And no means NO!!!

 

[pc1966]

Did you say FLÜGGÅӘNKб€ČHIŒßØLĮÊN ?

 

[DaveW4]

You don't mean FLÜGGÅӘNKб€ČHIŒßØLĮÊN ?

Is that 20mm or 32mm???

 

[telectrix]

Is that 20mm or 32mm???

inch an a half.

 

[DPG]

inch an a half.

Not from what I've heard.

 

[davesparks]

What is the purpose of the soundproofing? Is it soundproofing of a party wall or partition intended to keep sound out, or is it more along the lines of creating an acoustically isolated room or recording l/broadcast studio?

In the latter case you would normally have a surface mounted electrical installation inside the room with the minimum penetrations of the wall as possible.

 

[DaveW4]

What is the purpose of the soundproofing? Is it soundproofing of a party wall or partition intended to keep sound out, or is it more along the lines of creating an acoustically isolated room or recording l/broadcast studio?

In the latter case you would normally have a surface mounted electrical installation inside the room with the minimum penetrations of the wall as possible.

Apparently, it is to keep sound out on a party wall.

 

[davesparks]

Apparently, it is to keep sound out on a party wall.

Then the first thing to do is try not to locate any sockets on that wall as far as possible.

The construction is likely to be battens on the existing wall with dense insulation between and blue plasterboard on the front (possibly a double layer)

 

[DaveW4]

Then the first thing to do is try not to locate any sockets on that wall as far as possible.

The construction is likely to be battens on the existing wall with dense insulation between and blue plasterboard on the front (possibly a double layer)

I will have to wait and see what is there, when? I don't know but it was interesting to look into it. Thanks