Class 2 light fitting

[littlespark]

I see. So the view is that the risk of a fault energizing the cpc -> appliance outweighs the risk of a fault in the fitting energizing the small metal plate.

If properly designed to class 2 requirements, the risk of a fault from the fitting is (should be!) minimised.


Just because something is “made in China” does not necessarily make it low quality….

 

[mainline]

Just because something is “made in China” does not necessarily make it low quality….

Chances are that it will be, though.

The Chinese will make what the customer asks for. You want cheap crap, they'll make you cheap crap. You want quality, they can do that too, but it'll cost you. Unfortunately, most people put cheapness over quality and that's why the markets are flooded with this stuff

 

[mainline]

It's a recognised reputable brand, not some random Amazon rubbish.

Predominantly in southern China and India.

You only have to look at it to see its rubbish.

 

[westward10]

I wonder if that metal tab sticking up from the back of the lampholder is actually an earth terminal. Some plastic holders had an earth terminal fitted.

 

[mainline]

I wonder if that metal tab sticking up from the back of the lampholder is actually an earth terminal. Some plastic holders had an earth terminal fitted.

The metal tab looks to be connected to the case.

 

[westward10]

The metal tab looks to be connected to the case.

That's how they were an L shaped bracket that held the holder and fixed to the lamp base and it had a poor quality earthing point at the top. Like this.

 

[mainline]

That's how they were an L shaped bracket that held the holder and fixed to the lamp base and it had a poor quality earthing point at the top.

 

[mainline]

The designers of the fitting cannot guarantee that rcd protection is in place, or if there’s even a cpc present…. So they design their products to class II to cover any eventuality.

It has to have those to be compliant.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Crikey, that's a pretty rough design.
Well done for refusing to fit it. Basic insulation shoved under the floorboards! A small nick on the basic insulation and it comes into contact with a non earthed piece of metal... scary design.
I wonder how it can have a CE marking? I know nothing regarding the CE standards, but they can't be very high if this product meets them.

 

[littlespark]

Crikey, that's a pretty rough design.
Well done for refusing to fit it. Basic insulation shoved under the floorboards! A small nick on the basic insulation and it comes into contact with a non earthed piece of metal... scary design.
I wonder how it can have a CE marking? I know nothing regarding the CE standards, but they can't be very high if this product meets them.

Not basic insulation. Looks like reinforced insulation.
Used on some GU10 lampholders, floating freely in a ceiling void