Been offered an aprenticeship with Clarkson and Evans

[Loki]

Don't get excited, staverton is where you will be based, it is a total sh$t hole lol

OOOO I must have an upgrade then due to my old age, hope its not a old peoples home lol. Their letter confirms staying at the Ibis but no breakfast as we can get a free breakfast at Clarkson Evans. Personally I don't care where I stay as long as its clean.


Michael

 

[Anthony S]

I disagree, anything relating to the trade is better than working as a shop assistant.

I suppose if that's all what's out there then its a case of like it or lump it.

 

[Engineer54]

Hang on a minute here, the OP claims to already hold C&G lev 3, /17th ed, so what's all this about an apprenticeship?? Why would he need to duplicate qualifications he already holds at a 1st year apprentice rate FFS?? All the OP needs here is NVQ3 and he'll not get that legitimately, if this company is a large house bashing company!!!


Something somewhere just doesn't sound right to me, ...unless i'm completely missing something here??

 

[Leesparkykent]

Hang on a minute here, the OP claims to already hold C&G lev 3, /17th ed, so what's all this about an apprenticeship?? Why would he need to duplicate qualifications he already holds at a 1st year apprentice rate FFS?? All the OP needs here is NVQ3 and he'll not get that legitimately, if this company is a large house bashing company!!!


Something somewhere just doesn't sound right to me, ...unless i'm completely missing something here??

I can't see why he wouldn't be able to complete his NVQ3 with them. When doing blocks of flats etc they still use tray, trunking, SWA,conduit, etc.

 

[Engineer54]

No idea what this company actually does, never heard of them to be honest, just going by post 2.

Acquiring an NVQ3 isn't an apprentice type course, and shouldn't be classed as such. This company sounds to me as though it's taking the proverbial P***, as i'm bloody sure they will be using the OP as an electrician at apprentice rates of pay, rather than as an apprentice/trainee....

 

[rapparee]

A half a loaf is better than no loaf. Take the job.

 

[davedotx]

i cant see why it would take 3 years to do a NVQ. im still thinking about it, i am on a £24,000 salary at the moment. its a massive pay cut and ive been saving for a mortgage as well so those plans will be put on hold. thanks for the help ive got to give me decision on monday

 

[Engineer54]

A half a loaf is better than no loaf. Take the job.

It ain't anywhere near even half a loaf!! Would YOU entertain working as a lev 3 electrician for a couple of quid an hour??

 

[TJ Anderson]

OP you should definatly go for it. I was just reading their website and employee case studies. They have a lot of older trainees. I know money will be low but reading their site they seem to qualify within 2 years so it ain't that long at all in the scheme of things. I have heard of them before, they pick up loads of work for the national house builders but I also heard that their teams (1 fully qualified and 2 apprentices) wire two houses a day, so you will be incredibly efficient at the end having literally wired hundreds of houses.

 

[Engineer54]

i cant see why it would take 3 years to do a NVQ. im still thinking about it, i am on a £24,000 salary at the moment. its a massive pay cut and ive been saving for a mortgage as well so those plans will be put on hold. thanks for the help ive got to give me decision on monday

My advice is stay where you are, this company is taking the preverbial!! Keep your eyes looking out for other opportunities to gain NVQ3.

 

[Engineer54]

I also heard that their teams (1 fully qualified and 2 apprentices) wire two houses a day, so you will be incredibly efficient at the end having literally wired hundreds of houses.

I can only imagine the quality of the installation of those two houses a day.... and that's what's classed as a recommendation these days is it?? . If that's the case, you'll end up an incredibly efficient cowboy bar none!! No-wonder the UK's electrical industry is on it's knees....

 

[TJ Anderson]

I can only imagine the quality of the installation of those two houses a day.... and that's what's classed as a recommendation these days is it?? . If that's the case, you'll end up an incredibly efficient cowboy bar none!! No-wonder the UK's electrical industry is on it's knees....

Not really, no different to 1980's housing boom electricians. If you have wired the same house type again and again then it is like groundhog day. Better than just handing someone tools and fetching / carrying for three years. Our industry is fine thanks, how is it in China?

 

[Engineer54]

Not really, no different to 1980's housing boom electricians. If you have wired the same house type again and again then it is like groundhog day. Better than just handing someone tools and fetching / carrying for three years. Our industry is fine thanks, how is it in China?

Is it, i think you'll find it's anything BUT fine!! Who cares about China, that's there problem...

lol !! ...That may have been your experience, but mine was anything but fetching and carrying for 3 years!!

 

[rapparee]

It ain't anywhere near even half a loaf!! Would YOU entertain working as a lev 3 electrician for a couple of quid an hour??

But is he really an electrician? Or does is he just an electrician on paper? If he lacks practical skills then take the opportunity, if he is already working as a spark and on £24000 a year, well why is he even contemplating it.

 

[Engineer54]

I'll ask the same question again would anyone here be willing to work for a couple of quid an hour if you are holding a full level 3 + 17th ed qualifications for the sake of gaining a NVQ 3 cert??

That's the sort of money that you'd pay a snotty kid just starting out, or a electrical trainee!!

And the answer would be an emphatic NO!!

 

[Maddison]

i cant see why it would take 3 years to do a NVQ. im still thinking about it, i am on a £24,000 salary at the moment. its a massive pay cut and ive been saving for a mortgage as well so those plans will be put on hold. thanks for the help ive got to give me decision on monday

Your already doubting it so that doubt will grow. No doubt youve worked hard to get where you are saving for your mortgage etc. The NVQ is not about being able to do it as quick as you can.. you have a 3 year limit on doing it. I spent a solid year doing it and had it done by the time i started my level 3.. my employers were very pro active and always helping me along taking photos of me installing which was good of them.. if you have the variety of work you can cover what you need to. If you can answer the " where do you want to be in 5 years question" youll be able to answer your question on monday. Good luck

 

[davedotx]

im gonna take it. At the moment i work in quarries fitting flow and level insturments and i lack a lot of domestic electrician skills. With this oppertunity i can see myslef being a better skilled electrician with experience and in 5 years hopefully earn 30,000+

 

[Engineer54]

im gonna take it. At the moment i work in quarries fitting flow and level insturments and i lack a lot of domestic electrician skills. With this oppertunity i can see myslef being a better skilled electrician with experience and in 5 years hopefully earn 30,000+

What skills would they be, they don't call domestic, house bashing for nothing!! The skills you have gained in industry far outweigh anything you're going to pick-up in the domestic sector. Set your heights a damn sight higher than the domestic sector and you could go far!!

 

[JD6400]

Dave , I can not see why you would want to go from a reasonably specialist job working in quarries , with ( I am assuming ) the possibility of other job opportunities in this sector . To working with every man and his dog ( most of them now trained less than your average toddler ) in a sector of our industry that has been pillaged beyond redemption !?

 

[Silly Sausage]

im gonna take it. At the moment i work in quarries fitting flow and level insturments and i lack a lot of domestic electrician skills. With this oppertunity i can see myslef being a better skilled electrician with experience and in 5 years hopefully earn 30,000+

:smilielol5:

Seriously, stick at where you are now.
You'd be insane going into domestics and you'd be bored out of your skull within a year!!!