capping

[GLENNSPARK]

It's amazing the number of people that think that earthed metal capping is classed as protection. Daz

hmm....

well i might call it something else Darren but....

 

[JD6400]

As for the cost ! It adds pence to a run when using oval conduit .
If installed correctly , it is perfectly accessible when it comes to replacing , even pulling the odd extra cable down when needed .
It looks 100% more professional to the client than just clipping direct , no matter how neat your clipping is , and a damn site quicker .
The above does depend on if the chase has been cut with a decent wall chaser ( but then again if you have not got this or the extract gear to go with it , I pity any other trades working along side you on a rewire ! ) .
I know it is purely down to choice , but it is a no brainer as I see it .

 

[ipf]

Reckon this thread needs capping.

 

[Guest569]

How many 1mms down an oval tube ? also is there a quick way to fix it to wall ? I may give it a bash.

 

[telectrix]

i use 25mm tube as a minimum. get 3 1.5mm in easy. use the proprietry clips. each clip is just 1 plug and screw, then tube clips in.

Buy MK Electric Oval PVC Conduit, Egatube Oval, 22.5mm x 11mm x 3m, White - EOC3WHI

 

[JD6400]

We use sto25 , and all you do place it in the chase when you have fed the cables in ( straight and not twisted) tight up to one side , mark your fixing points normally between two or three for the length drill , plug and fix leaving the screw heads just above the conduit . You will find that it is quite easy and a perfectly sturdy fixing until the spreader comes along , and if the mortar is soft enough , you are able to fix straight in to it , as it is only going to be a temporary fixing for a few days until spread .

 

[Silly Sausage]

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=O...XY7Aa-zYG4Bw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=660

More tubing good points...
Let a 'Monkey' (for want of a better word!) fit all your tubing, plasterer makes good.
You come along later, pull cables in, test and finish off etc., knowing full well there's no damage whatsoever to your wiring.
And it improves the Maintainability of the install.

Capping is history, the future is Oval tube, and the future is (has been) here and now!

 

[Guest569]

sounds good..reason I'm asking is my chasers rages are not quite wide enough for standard capping. Oval tube would work.

 

[jeremy]

25mm oval tube is very slightly wider than the gap left from my wall chaser on full width. On longish horizontal runs I'd support it with some "band-it", but other than that, just push it in.

 

[JD6400]

sounds good..reason I'm asking is my chasers rages are not quite wide enough for standard capping. Oval tube would work.

It depends on your chaser I have had to make shims up to go on some of our past models , but Hilti and at the other end of the price range sparky , machines seem to have the width .

 

[atm84]

That would only work (for first floor sockets) if the oval tube went behind the skirting and under the floor and was easy to get at. Would be difficult if there was a joist up against the wall. Its often easier to pull the cables in and then thread the tube over the cables.

 

[JD6400]

That would only work (for first floor sockets) if the oval tube went behind the skirting and under the floor and was easy to get at. Would be difficult if there was a joist up against the wall. Its often easier to pull the cables in and then thread the tube over the cables.

Sorry , I did not explain it as well as I could've .
When I said " feed the cables in ( straight and not twisted ) " , this is what I meant .

 

[shanky887614]

How many 1mms down an oval tube ? also is there a quick way to fix it to wall ? I may give it a bash.

If its speed your after. Get the knock in conduit clips. The ones you hammer in

 

[High Tower]

If its speed your after. Get the knock in conduit clips. The ones you hammer in

Crampets

 

[Guest569]

It depends on your chaser I have had to make shims up to go on some of our past models , but Hilti and at the other end of the price range sparky , machines seem to have the width .

I have hilti but only goes to about 2"

 

[telectrix]

Crampets

below..

 

[JD6400]

That should be big enough ?
As and when we need to substantially widen the chase , we use a Hilti grinder with an extract head on it .

 

[Guest569]

That should be big enough ?
As and when we need to substantially widen the chase , we use a Hilti grinder with an extract head on it .

Was just guessing maybe bit narrower, won't take standard capping I know that. I was getting a load of slightly narrower capping for a while which was perfect but can't get no more. smallest stuff 16mm? no use.

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That should be big enough ?
As and when we need to substantially widen the chase , we use a Hilti grinder with an extract head on it .

I put a post on about angle grinder extraction the other day...is hilti version good like ?

 

[shanky887614]

Crampets

Thanks mate, seen them, know of them but never used them and forgot the name

 

[JD6400]

Was just guessing maybe bit narrower, won't take standard capping I know that. I was getting a load of slightly narrower capping for a while which was perfect but can't get no more. smallest stuff 16mm? no use.

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As good as you would expect it to be , being Hilti !
Keep meaning to buy another grinder , as they sent two extract heads out with the grinder when we brought a hover and grinder combo kit .
Tried to give the spare head back , but the rep would have none of it !?

 

[DPG]

Crampets

Lovely with a bit of butter

 

[Guest569]

Was just guessing maybe bit narrower, won't take standard capping I know that. I was getting a load of slightly narrower capping for a while which was perfect but can't get no more. smallest stuff 16mm? no use.

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As good as you would expect it to be , being Hilti !
Keep meaning to buy another grinder , as they sent two extract heads out with the grinder when we brought a hover and grinder combo kit .
Tried to give the spare head back , but the rep would have none of it !?

Ive just ordered a new makita grinder but Im thinking I should get the hilti. Could you maybe point me in the direction of the extractor unit ? I see a few on the site but not sure which Id need ?

 

[JD6400]

I will have a look on their site for you now .

 

[Guest569]

I will have a look on their site for you now .

cheers , theres one for cutting one for surface grinding and one for slitting? One is over £200!

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Lovely with a bit of butter

Darn Landan.

 

[Silly Sausage]

JRC, in the unlikely event that they're open when you're not rewiring...

https://www.hilti.co.uk/Services/Buying-from-Hilti/hc

 

[JD6400]

I have been on their site , but can not tell which one it is at the moment .
I know it is on one of their 5" grinders , but as I tend not to get on the tools nowadays , and especially not for chasseing work , I am not quite sure which one it is !?
I do know from when I was more hands on , it was the daddy ! Especially when it came to cutting a perfect box hole .
I am going down to work early this week so should be back on Wednesday night this week , I will have a look for it at the yard and if I remember when I get back home post the model number up for you .

 

[Guest569]

JRC, in the unlikely event that they're open when you're not rewiring...

https://www.hilti.co.uk/Services/Buying-from-Hilti/hc

we have a new hilti store in glasgow..Ill pop in for a look..

 

[Guest569]

I have been on their site , but can not tell which one it is at the moment .
I know it is on one of their 5" grinders , but as I tend not to get on the tools nowadays , and especially not for chasseing work , I am not quite sure which one it is !?
I do know from when I was more hands on , it was the daddy especially when it came to cutting a perfect box hole .
I am going down to work early this week so should be back on Wednesday night this week , I will have a look for it at the yard and if I remember when I get back home post the model number up for you .

Excellent thanks..more so the extractor I'm interested in mate...Ill just pick up their basic 5" grinder to accompany it.

 

[uksparks]

I've got the metabo wall chaser and metabo asr2025 vacuum, you old literally eat your dinner next to it when chasing a wall.... Ideal for lived in rewires when the home owner is eating dinner.

 

[JD6400]

I've got the metabo wall chaser and metabo asr2025 vacuum, you old literally eat your dinner next to it when chasing a wall.... Ideal for lived in rewires when the home owner is eating dinner.

Not sure off the metabo vacuum cleaner , as I have not seen one in use .
Has it got a self clean function like the Hilti ?

 

[uksparks]

Yes, it's got on, off, auto and clean, and if on auto it also self cleans.

It kind of makes this vibrating shaking action on the filters.

Its an exceptional vacuum.

 

[JD6400]

Yes, it's got on, off, auto and clean, and if on auto it also self cleans.

It kind of makes this vibrating shaking action on the filters.

Its an exceptional vacuum.

The Hilti sort of bangs the filters every so often .
How much was it ? I am guessing a bloody site cheaper than the Hilti !
I may get our local wholesaler to get one in for a demo , The only thing I can fault with Hilti is the price of it !:bigcry:

 

[uksparks]

I got it from ffx with the chaser, have a look on there.

 

[Rockingit]

I've not read this thread. My sanity prevents me from doing so. 184 posts on flippin capping??????!!!!!!

 

[D Skelton]

you could literally eat your dinner next to it when chasing a wall.... Ideal for lived in rewires when the home owner is eating dinner.

Hahahaha! That line just made me do a little weewee in my pants!

 

[guest119]

Hahahaha! That line just made me do a little weewee in my pants!

Glad you didnt do one last Monday D.

Boydy

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Hahahaha! That line just made me do a little weewee in my pants!

just aim the dust spout towards the dinner eater when chasing...

or better still go back to the van...get the stihlsaw out...

 

[Silly Sausage]

Glad you didnt do one last Monday D.

Boydy

I'm sure his chair was empty for the next lot.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I'm sure his chair empty for the next lot.

i`m surprised he didn`t...listening to some of that drivvel spouting forth from the scheme reps slimy gobs...

in fact ..observe the facial expressions from the guy sat just behind the reps in hour 2...

definately something going on there...

 

[Silly Sausage]

I missed most of the 2nd half, but I remember there were raised voices at one point, definitely signs of trying to defend a losing battle.
Yer man, with glasses (NAPIT I think), behind them was good on both halves.

 

[Dan]

I'm just bumping some of the older threads in the general electrical forum that had a lot of replies. They might not be current topics, if they're not, just ignore them and they'll soon drop off the list. If you DO wish to add a reply and get the conversation going again, feel free to do so. Your input might help somebody else in the future.

 

[Dan]

I'm just bumping some threads in the Electrical Forum, don't mind me while I do this, you don't have to respond to them. Although if they are still current topics, and you do wish to reply, you're welcome to. Keep the thread on-topic and make sure you stick to the forum rules though.