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Thank you Let Me Think, that was a good insight into things!

I have come to an understanding with the electrician who has said he asked NICEIC and they have told him that the C2s should be C3. So he is happy to re-issue the EICR based one that.

I send NICEIC an email asking the rating with description of my situation as I did here in this forum, I also attached the EICR. I have actually got an email back from today too saying the below:

Good afternoon,
Thank you for your enquiry.
Based on the information provided, The observations should have only been given a C3 which is an improvement recommendation as stated in the best practice guide 4.

Unfortunately, we cannot comment on the length of time taken nor the amount he has charged as we haven’t seen the job that took place.


I guess that's pretty clear I think!
 
what usually happens when they cannot check for supplementary bonding visually?
It requires slightly more effort/work from a testing/verification perspective (hence more money spent) and will no doubt require removable of bath panel, light fitting, etc, all of which could result in cosmetic damage, to physical check for presence of bonding and to check it's integrity.

I presume people here have generally agreed that zero RCDs is mostly a C3? Does the number of RCDs affect the rating?
Based on what your electrician has said, then RCD will be required for lighting circuit in bathroom, if bonding is not sufficient. Catch-22 - will either need to confirm bonding is in place and sufficient if not can be made sufficient (costs involved) or have RCD/RCBO for all appropriate circuits (costs involved).

If he grades according to guidelines, surely it's not his fault if he's followed that? Have people here had to deal with legal issues when something bad happened even though they followed guidelines?
Thankfully not been involved any legal issues to date. Would hate anything bad to happen, hence previous recommendation to give you that extra piece of mind (assuming you can afford it).


On a separate note, if not already done so, would strongly suggest you also consider having smoke/heat alarms properly assessed (fire bridge can do this for you) to see if they are adequate and meet current regs. - One area where as a landlord you want to fully up to date, even it is going to cost extra to bring/keep you fully up to date.
Can check to see if the metal pipes etc from the earth via the lights continuity if it’s more than 0.5. But check that I’m not 100% sure as don’t have the book in front of me then it would be a fail
 
From the look of this the property is only 15 years old- what brand of consumer unit is there?

Can you send a photo?

You may be able to get replacement RCBO's for it and then save replacing the consumer unit.
 
From the look of this the property is only 15 years old- what brand of consumer unit is there?

Can you send a photo?

You may be able to get replacement RCBO's for it and then save replacing the consumer unit.
It’s actually 16 years old now, as it’s a post from last year. Hopefully the OP has it sorted, got their satisfactory report and is letting out the flat
 
Thanks for the reply all.

Regarding the £90, it was likely due to the fact I had multiple EICR done with him. I asked around on MyBuilder and RatedPeople websites and the quotes were around £90 - £120. Is this a good range from your experiences?

I did ask the tenants how long he actually took and they said around 45 minutes with certainty.

I will get a hold of the report and post it here.

Thank you.
It's very hard to compete with these prices . The recommendation in GN3 is that for installation with less then 100electrical points then it's better not to do any samplings and actually check all point as according to statistical sampling theory " the minimum population size to get a meaningful results is 100"
 
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