EICR report and £900 remedial work - seems fair?

[Flanders]

Did the electrian replace your fuse board or just quote for a new one if he has replaced it you should have an electrical insulation cert

 

[westward10]

Indeed and I fully agree

But i have seen reports suggesting a C type breaker as a C2 , and when I queried this with the person who did the report their answer was ‘ I dint like C breakers in domestic’

Aside from the dreadful presentation of that Report it is a classic example of why a huge percentage of people who carry out EICRs should steer well clear of them.

 

[Flanders]

Yes agree with westward its seams to me that electrians know how to do all the testing and inspection but struggle to understand the forms . On this report they have put N/A in the insulation resistance test for live and live . This should of been tested or Limmed out

 

[josey1978]

All of the work mentioned above has been completed.

Should I just have an electrical certificate or also a minor works certificate?

 

[Flanders]

All of the work mentioned above has been completed.

Should I just have an electrical certificate or also a minor works certificate?

You should have an electrical installation cert. Which will say on what work has been done . For example. Replaced consumer unit . Bonding to gas and water and remedial work carried out to rectify observations on eicr and the work is notifiable the document you have posted is the electrical condition report

 

[happysteve]

Those are Type 4 circuit breakers

(Not doubting you for a second, but) how do you/would you know?

 

[westward10]

Experience I suppose. Square D QO-X mcbs if coloured brown are Type 4 and nothing else. Later white cased ones can be 1, 2, 3, B, or C and are never brown cased. The brown ones would have had it stamped on the front but nine times out of ten it has worn off.

 

[ashrow]

@ happysteve

By experience

 

[josey1978]

Sorry, one mistake above. The original report was also unsatisfactory. There was a C2 for the socket. Nothing else mentioned apart from a recommendation to upgrade the fuse board which I was content to do.

I have emailed the electrician and asked him about some of the things that have been written above and whether he thinks my installation is now safe. I also mentioned the serial number of the test instrument not being recorded properly (it doesn't look like a serial number, more like a model number). I have also emailed him about the socket which is broken and still not replaced even though it was promised by him verbally. I am worried it could deteriorate further.

I have bought this house recently and want it to be as safe as possible. I'm worried that the test recordings may not be correct and also whether the electrician has picked up all existing faults.

His reply to my email was:

Hi Xxxxx
Have a look on niceic website
My company name is
Xxxxx Ltd
We are approved contractor
We do both inspection on domestic and commercial
Never had any issues with insurance, you can phone niceic and ask any questions you want about my company.
Regards


There was no mention of any of the issues I raised. Would it be a good idea to have a totally new EICR carried out by someone competent?

 

[telectrix]

i think that the EICR you have, although not perfect, does highlight the issues you have, and the recommendations appear to be reasonable. i'd go with the guy's quote for remedials, but makes sure you both agree on what works are to be carried out a £---. get this in writing, so you are both on the same page.

 

[josey1978]

Thanks, the work has already been done though

Would using a non-calibrated test instrument invalid this report for all intents and purposes?

How can he prove the machine he used is accurate and whether he tested the new fuse board competently?

 

[telectrix]

you should have received an Electrical Installation Cert.after the work was done. this should have details of his test equipment on it, unlike on the EICR. also, itis a condition of his NICEIC membership that his gear is regularly calibrated. my advice is to talk to him first, querying any issues you are concerned about.

 

[WallaceP]

I think having an honest and direct conversation with the electrician would be more positive than going on an online forum. There is a lot that of variables that is hard to cover on a message board.

 

[Zerax]

I think having an honest and direct conversation with the electrician would be more positive than going on an online forum. There is a lot that of variables that is hard to cover on a message board.

I think the OP is just trying to improve his knowledge and understanding before having the conversation that you suggest and will ultimately happen.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Sorry, one mistake above. The original report was also unsatisfactory. There was a C2 for the socket. Nothing else mentioned apart from a recommendation to upgrade the fuse board which I was content to do.

I have emailed the electrician and asked him about some of the things that have been written above and whether he thinks my installation is now safe. I also mentioned the serial number of the test instrument not being recorded properly (it doesn't look like a serial number, more like a model number). I have also emailed him about the socket which is broken and still not replaced even though it was promised by him verbally. I am worried it could deteriorate further.

I have bought this house recently and want it to be as safe as possible. I'm worried that the test recordings may not be correct and also whether the electrician has picked up all existing faults.

His reply to my email was:

Hi Xxxxx
Have a look on niceic website
My company name is
Xxxxx Ltd
We are approved contractor
We do both inspection on domestic and commercial
Never had any issues with insurance, you can phone niceic and ask any questions you want about my company.
Regards


There was no mention of any of the issues I raised. Would it be a good idea to have a totally new EICR carried out by someone competent?

I think it would be a very good idea to have another EICR carried out Josey. The reason being that you are clearly concerned about the EICR you have now (perhaps rightly so) and will remain concerned until you have an EICR that has been written out more professionally.

You clearly have some electrical knowledge so when choosing the next electrician to carry out the report I would quiz them a little before hand on aspects raised in this thread so you can gauge their competence. I wouldn't mind at all if a customer asked me exactly what they were going to get for there money, I would be happy to discuss it in detail.

Expect to pay a minimum of £150 for a decent report, this is based on a 3 bed semi. I charge £175. You would pay more for a larger house/consumer unit.

Good luck and I hope you manage to get some closure.

PS.. You could always look on this forum for an electrician close to you. I'm not saying that everyone on here will provide a very good service but on average I think you are far more likely to get a good electrician off this site than elsewhere as we are all a bit sad and enjoy discussing our trade and how to constantly improve.