Is there a "proper" way to become a domestic installer?

[RAW85]

I need some help please...

As I've read on this forum the 1 week course are a big no no. I want to learn properly but can't live on the electricians mate's wage whilst I learn to do the NVQ.

I want to learn a new skill as the job I'm in looks bleak for the future ahead. I don't think the company will close any time soon but I doubt I'll be working there until my retirement.

The domestic installer route seems the right path as I would be looking to do domestic maintenance a day a week (i currently work 4 long days a week) to gain experience but is there a "proper" way to become a domestic installer? I.e college course?

Thanks

 

[telectrix]

can do college 1 day or 2 evenings a week.

 

[sedgy34]

just pay your fee the rest is easy

 

[Worldz]

City and guilds 2356
And lv 3 Nvq good luck buddie

 

[Baker1988]

can do college 1 day or 2 evenings a week.

But even then you will probily have to be a mate to get the experiance that is needed

 

[kingeri]

Hmm, so called "Domestic Installers" didn't exist when I started out. There were just electricians, some of whom decided to specialise in domestic work. The normal route was an apprenticeship. Domestic Installers of today are people who have chosen to take a fast track route. Go to college if you can, many do part time courses, but to do it properly expect to spend a good few years on it.

 

[brucelee]

look into the new 2365 electrotechnical course and possibly the NVQ part of the 2357 lv3 diploma I am not sure of these courses but others will know more they have jsut changed all qaulifications to the ones above if you go to college you will learn about working in all areas and not just domestic but after you have qualified there are other courses you will need such as the 2382-12 and by the time you have finished it could be a total new qualification as this os for the 17th edition 2008 amendemnt no 1 so there wil be amendment 2 and then possibly 18th but contacting your local college or search City and Guilds for Electrical qualifications but seriously thinbk if this is the path ypu want as they would ahve you believe the is a golden pot at the end of the rainbow but there isnt

or consider other trades Plumbers and others seem to do as well as electricians these days

good luck in your endeavours for a more stable future if there is one

 

[RAW85]

I can go to college one day a week to learn the new 2365 (replacing the 2330) level 2 then 3 but its the NVQ that's causing me bother as I won't be able to complete it due to the electricians mate situation.

 

[Top Cat]

look into the new 2365 electrotechnical course and possibly the NVQ part of the 2357 lv3 diploma I am not sure of these courses but others will know more they have jsut changed all qaulifications to the ones above if you go to college you will learn about working in all areas and not just domestic but after you have qualified there are other courses you will need such as the 2382-12 and by the time you have finished it could be a total new qualification as this os for the 17th edition 2008 amendemnt no 1 so there wil be amendment 2 and then possibly 18th but contacting your local college or search City and Guilds for Electrical qualifications but seriously thinbk if this is the path ypu want as they would ahve you believe the is a golden pot at the end of the rainbow but there isnt

or consider other trades Plumbers and others seem to do as well as electricians these days

good luck in your endeavours for a more stable future if there is one

Have been self employed for 30 years and i now earn 50% less than i did 5 years ago, go into plumbing!

 

[Guest55]

i'm going to get an almighty flaming for saying this but........

if all you want to do is domestic work , and you dont have time for the 2/3 years at college , and cant afford to work as a trainee..............

maybe a part p domestic installer is course is right for you.


* runs off to hide behind sofa.
;-)

 

[dan86]

brave man!

 

[Baker1988]

I can go to college one day a week to learn the new 2365 (replacing the 2330) level 2 then 3 but its the NVQ that's causing me bother as I won't be able to complete it due to the electricians mate situation.

I know a few people out there that do the electrotechnical certificate then go self employed and do the nvq that way

 

[Guest55]

i'm going to get an almighty flaming for saying this but........

if all you want to do is domestic work , and you dont have time for the 2/3 years at college , and cant afford to work as a trainee..............

maybe a part p domestic installer is course is right for you.


* runs off to hide behind sofa.
;-)

only kidding , take up plumbing lol.

 

[telectrix]

time you've don your level 3 , they'll probably have scrapped the nvq and replaced it with something they can make more money out of.

 

[oldtimer]

Hmm, so called "Domestic Installers" didn't exist when I started out. There were just electricians, some of whom decided to specialise in domestic work. The normal route was an apprenticeship. Domestic Installers of today are people who have chosen to take a fast track route. Go to college if you can, many do part time courses, but to do it properly expect to spend a good few years on it.

Yep we were all called electricians where the industrial commercial guys thats me could do domestics but the guys who served their time in house bashing or domestics could not make the jump to I&C with 3 phase distibution etc and even then there was another jump to maintenance electrician. Thing is no matter what you do you need to apply yourself and that means putting the work in ie reading the books and not watching telly

 

[sedgy34]

to the op do as little and less cost to yourself as long as your competent, do the domestic installer "tin hat on"

 

[Adam W]

IMO you can learn the theory in a college but the "proper" way to train is on the job working as a mate.
Taking shortcuts with your training seems like falling at the first hurdle.

 

[johnboy6083]

Don't set your ceiling as a domestic installer (I hate this term by the way).
Get yourself a job as a sparks mate, the pay isn't bad (£9-£11.30 per hour, the last rate is what my firm pay unqualified mates).
This way you get experience in not only electrical work, but also the culture of the industry, which is worth just as much.
try your hardest to get as much varied experience as possible. It will pay you dividends throughout your career. Specialisation has its benefits, but versatility will keep you working when the specialists twiddle their thumbs.
with a good base of electrical experience, you can move into a specialism later on, but with the knowledge and confidence to know you can do most things.

 

[shanky887614]

Don't set your ceiling as a domestic installer (I hate this term by the way).
Get yourself a job as a sparks mate, the pay isn't bad (£9-£11.30 per hour, the last rate is what my firm pay unqualified mates).
This way you get experience in not only electrical work, but also the culture of the industry, which is worth just as much.
try your hardest to get as much varied experience as possible. It will pay you dividends throughout your career. Specialisation has its benefits, but versatility will keep you working when the specialists twiddle their thumbs.
with a good base of electrical experience, you can move into a specialism later on, but with the knowledge and confidence to know you can do most things.

your right there. there is a guy on the same firm who also looks after 5 or so off the bosses houses from block paving,gardening,plumbing to electrics

he will be busy till the day he dies. the rest are electricians (i say that cause work varies)

 

[Engineer54]

There is no such thing as a ''Domestic Installer''. This is just a made-up term, to enable scheme providers to allow the untrained and inexperienced into and to the detriment of our industry!!

I've said it before and i'll say it again, ...if you cant or won't put the time and effort into learning this trade/profession then look for some other career path. Preferably one where you can't damage person's or property. There is no quick fix or path to becoming a competent electrician, no-matter what anyone tells you otherwise!!