Kitchen Socket Circuits??

[Octopus]

What ever you decide just don't have the plugs for the appliances behind the appliances ....

 

[telectrix]

lost count of the number of burnt out grid switches i've seen. some just defunct, some bridged out due to failure. only ever fitted 1 4 gang grid for kitchen appliances. bit me in the arse when the freezer switch failed and customer hit me with a £300 bill for ruined food. never again on my watch.

 

[123]

What ever you decide just don't have the plugs for the appliances behind the appliances ....

Never a socket behind an integrated appliance, but a trailing socket on the other hand is fine. Gives a lot of flexibility in the installation as well.

 

[Paul505]

lost count of the number of burnt out grid switches i've seen. some just defunct, some bridged out due to failure. only ever fitted 1 4 gang grid for kitchen appliances. bit me in the arse when the freezer switch failed and customer hit me with a £300 bill for ruined food. never again on my watch.

Thanks for the reply.... all the grid set ups seem to be the norm in new builds these days. Plenty of call outs then if that's a common occurrence then!

 

[Paul505]

Never a socket behind an integrated appliance, but a trailing socket on the other hand is fine. Gives a lot of flexibility in the installation as well.

Not sure about that one... why without sounding rude?
I've heard of quick flow connectors on appliances that have had there plugs cut off? A bit like the flex outlet method of old which I never liked.

 

[Paul505]

Not sure about that one... why without sounding rude?
I've heard of quick flow connectors on appliances that have had there plugs cut off? A bit like the flex outlet method of old which I never liked.

Just to add if there's a problem with an appliance... it has to come out regardless of where the plug in point is anyway.

 

[Ian1981]

Use grids all the time never had a problem with them Either 4 gang 3 or 2.
They are a particular favourite of most of the house builders and are specified on the drawings for the kitchen layout.
Not sure why it’s a problem putting a socket behind an appliance either as is the norm with new builds our company carry out and I’m unaware of any problems while doing this.
If the appliances are tight tho then the appliance fitter will advise and we fit an a unswitched fused spur with flex outlet but always behind the appliance which is controlled by a DP switch in a grid set up.

 

[Octopus]

Just to add if there's a problem with an appliance... it has to come out regardless of where the plug in point is anyway.

I have lost count how many times a tripping rcd has been traced to an appliance with the plug in an inaccessible position

 

[Paul505]

Use grids all the time never had a problem with them Either 4 gang 3 or 2.
They are a particular favourite of most of the house builders and are specified on the drawings for the kitchen layout.
Not sure why it’s a problem putting a socket behind an appliance either as is the norm with new builds our company carry out and I’m unaware of any problems while doing this.
If the appliances are tight tho then the appliance fitter will advise and we fit an a unswitched fused spur with flex outlet but always behind the appliance which is controlled by a DP switch in a grid set up.

Do you have the grid on show?

 

[123]

Against the ceiling in the downstairs toilet, a few metres from the kitchen.
Lets hear your preferred method?

A little far away

I have no preferred method, every kitchen is different.

From Pull Up Sockets in the worktop, to pull down sockets hidden in the wall units. Isolators in a Larder unit for appliances to some grid switching, or a sub DB for appliances. Also have the likes of a bank of switches contolling contactors, but that can get expensive.