New Member needs help with power to loft

[Scouseian]

Hi everyone new member here looking for advice.

Im looking at putting sockets in my loft. I see the question has been asked many times but I cannot see any questions relating to my issue.

I have a hive multizone and the electrical supply to operate the valves for upstairs and downstairs is in a cupboard upstairs. Can I take a feed from this electrical supply feeding the valves upto the loft?

I have attached a picture of the valves and electrical supply.

Thanks for your help

Ian

 

[Scouseian]

sorry picture did not attach. see attached

 

[Scouseian]

sorry guys new to this but my photo isn't showing even though it says picture uploaded!! any advice?

Thanks

 

[Spoon]

Welcome to the forum mate.
Are you saying you want to tap into the Hive circuit to power sockets that you are adding in the loft?

 

[Spoon]

sorry guys new to this but my photo isn't showing even though it says picture uploaded!! any advice?

Thanks

Try to 'Copy/Paste' the images into the posts. That might work better.

 

[Scouseian]

yes pal id like to tap into hive circuit.

 

[Scouseian]

picture

 

[Octopus]

yes pal id like to tap into hive circuit.

Probably not the best plan ..........

Need more info really ................

 

[MDJ]

If you are a qualified Electrician you should know if the cable you are considering extending can handle the load of the Hive and whatever you intend to plug into the sockets in the loft connected to it yes? there is your answer.

 

[Scouseian]

No I'm not a qualified electrician but thanks for your response. I should have made myself clearer. I'm not tapping into the hive I would be tapping into the supply feeding the central heating vales. I've read questions regarding taking cable from an existing socket but noticed the power supply feeding the valves for the central heating. I hoped this would be easier but maybe not. Id upload a picture but I've tried 4 times and it won't upload!!

 

[MDJ]

No I'm not a qualified electrician but thanks for your response. I should have made myself clearer. I'm not tapping into the hive I would be tapping into the supply feeding the central heating vales. I've read questions regarding taking cable from an existing socket but noticed the power supply feeding the valves for the central heating. I hoped this would be easier but maybe not. Id upload a picture but I've tried 4 times and it won't upload!!

Well I won't help then, but good luck and hopefully someone will steer you across to the DIY area.

 

[Octopus]

hum ........... maybe you should get a competent spark involved?

 

[Scouseian]

Ok thanks anyway.

 

[HandySparks]

If you're adding sockets you should take the supply from the socket circuit, not the central heating controls.

 

[Scouseian]

thanks handyspark. There is a 230v box feeding the valves. If I could upload a picture you could see. its driving me nuts. as MDJ said ill try the DIY section

 

[HandySparks]

What are the proposed sockets for?

 

[Octopus]

^^ that is the wiring centre .......... best not to tap a supply for sockets off that!

 

[Scouseian]

sockets was just for Ariel booster, cctv etc. Not to worry though as Murdoch says its best not too. I'll try another way. Thanks anyway everyone

 

[littlespark]

Rather than using the Hive supply, is there an immersion switch with a permanent supply? (rather than one that goes through an E7 controller or anything)
When I changed my heating system to a combi boiler, we had no need for the hot tank, no need for the immersion - which was only there as a backup.
Jointed the cable in an accessible space, ran the extended cable up through the cupboard and into the attic to a double socket.
Light is off a plugtop, aerial booster in other.

I have seen other attics where the booster is supplied from a socket wired into the lighting circuit.

 

[Taylortwocities]

I have seen other attics where the booster is supplied from a socket wired into the lighting circuit.

May be OK just for a booster. But the OP seems to want to create a whole suite of stuff up there.

sockets was just for Ariel booster, cctv etc.

Separate circuit, or fused spur from a ring final. Obviously the wiring centre in the picture is not suitable. It will be powered from the boiler supply fuse!

 

[Scouseian]

Thanks guys for advice. Had another thought and wondered if it was possible. My fuse box is on outside wall. Could I take a feed from cable running out of fuse box to upstairs sockets and run it up outside of house and into loft. As long as it's encased in a metal conduit would it be okay?

 

[Spoon]

Thanks guys for advice. Had another thought and wondered if it was possible. My fuse box is on outside wall. Could I take a feed from cable running out of fuse box to upstairs sockets and run it up outside of house and into loft. As long as it's encased in a metal conduit would it be okay?

Just to confirm again.. You want to take a feed from an upstairs socket, run it up the outside of your house, into the loft?
How about getting an electrician in to see which is the best way to get your sockets in the loft..

 

[Scouseian]

Thanks spoon that is where I am heading. It's a new house so missus not happy with me attacking walls. Thanks you everyone's advice.

 

[davesparks]

Thanks spoon that is where I am heading. It's a new house so missus not happy with me attacking walls. Thanks you everyone's advice.

But she is happy with you having a go at the electrics and potentially placing your life, and the life of anyone else in the house in danger?

 

[MDJ]

But she is happy with you having a go at the electrics and potentially placing your life, and the life of anyone else in the house in danger?

Well said Dave, and very true as well, it is like those folk who spent 2 grand on a top of the range, range cooker and need to spend 150 quid having the supply upgraded, they cut corners and burn the house down, I have never understood cutting corners.

 

[Scouseian]

Ask for advice and get a lecture!! Im sure you’ve never challenged yourself! I’m competent in myself and my skills. Get off your soapbox.

 

[telectrix]

suggesting feeding sockets from a c/h wiring centre does not seem like competent from where i sit. could always feed from that soapbox you mentioned.

 

[Scouseian]

That’s because you are sat in the seat of “people cannot learn they must already know”. Competent has various definitions, read them!

 

[Spoon]

Ask for advice and get a lecture!! Im sure you’ve never challenged yourself! I’m competent in myself and my skills. Get off your soapbox.

What you have to remember mate is that we will give you advice on how to do the job properly.
Quite a few years ago I wanted some sockets moving and adding in the kitchen. It was a simple job and the guy who came to do it asked why I didn't do it myself. I told him that I didn't have the test equipment to test the job afterwards and I wanted a cert for the work as well. The job didn't cost much and I get a cert out of it. Everyone a winner.

 

[Scouseian]

I get what you are saying pal and I appreciate your opinion. What I don’t appreciate is members spouting off and being disrespectful. I asked for advice which initially I got then when I asked for further advice it ended with me burning my house down! Some senior members on here need to get off their soapboxes and just offer constructive opinions. There is no need for sarcasm.

 

[littlespark]

I'm afraid sarcasm comes with the territory here. Its trained into us as part of the apprenticeship.

Some members rightly say "get a professional in" when they think a poster is asking something that they believe is out of the posters skill set. sometimes it can be said a little too quickly.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

sockets was just for Ariel booster, cctv etc. Not to worry though as Murdoch says its best not too. I'll try another way. Thanks anyway everyone

Ariel is washing powder (no doubt that is why you used a capital letter). How and why do you boost washing powder?

Aerial amplifiers are another thing and are often installed when not really required.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

sockets was just for Ariel booster, cctv etc. Not to worry though as Murdoch says its best not too. I'll try another way. Thanks anyway everyone

Ariel is washing powder (no doubt that is why you used a capital letter). How and why do you boost washing powder?

Aerial amplifiers are another thing and are often installed when not really required.

 

[MDJ]

Ask for advice and get a lecture!! Im sure you’ve never challenged yourself! I’m competent in myself and my skills. Get off your soapbox.

I can't my feet are stuck to it, I will try though for you

 

[Taylortwocities]

Let’s play “spot the pedant”

 

[telectrix]

Let’s play “spot the pedant”

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[Taylortwocities]

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