Non Part P compliant work?

[Secondincometrader]

an electrician has installed a spur fuse(?) as part of a bathroom under floor heating installation. They removed a redundant plug socket just outside the bathroom and re-used it to instal the spur fuse. Several days later I noticed it wasn’t straight so thought I’ll straighten it when I come to paint the wall and need to remove it. Having done that I’ve now noticed that the original metal box is too shallow and I cannot screw the cover back on. The fuse unit would never fit in a box that shallow, I realised they actually filled round the edge, probably because there was a gap. Also there are no rubber grommets on the cut outs where the cables come in. I’m wary of trying to force the cover on in case the wires are cut by the box cut outs and the box becomes live. Does the use of an incorrectly sized box and the lack of rubber grommets mean the work is non compliant? Many thanks in advance.

 

[telectrix]

get them back.

 

[Dustydazzler]

non - compliant ?

more like badger bodge

no grommets is a bit rough , as is trying to crush cables into a shallow back box

in the perfect world it will need a new deeper box and re-terminating by a sparks

 

[Secondincometrader]

Can I threaten them with anything to ensure they come back, if it’s non complaint can they be struck off any approved register? Thanks

 

[Rpa07]

Where did you find them, recommendation? Word of mouth? Pub?

 

[JAWS]

Can I threaten them with anything to ensure they come back, if it’s non complaint can they be struck off any approved register? Thanks

Bit much TBH why not contact the electrican explain you've had professional advice and you would like for them to come back to rectify it.
Nothing is saying they wont just pop back and sort it out.

 

[Secondincometrader]

Agreed, but I’d still like to know whether this work is not compliant with the standards?

 

[DPG]

Grommets should have been fitted. The appropriate size back box should have been used.

 

[mattg4321]

Not fitting grommets is IMO poor. The cables are not sufficiently protected against mechanical damage by the often sharp edges in KO boxes. See this all the time though.

Using a box that is too shallow and filling around the edge is possibly not against the regulations as it sounds like it met the IP2X on top surface and IP4X on others after they lashed it up with filler/decorators caulk. It is bloody poor though. It's certainly a poor quality of finish. That's not to mention the fact that it wasn't screwed back level.

Sounds like a bit of a rough job to me.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Can I threaten them with anything to ensure they come back, if it’s non complaint can they be struck off any approved register? Thanks

I would say he's in breach of:
Regulation 134.1.1
Good workmanship by skilled or instructed persons and proper materials shall be used in the erection of the electrical installation. The installation of electrical equipment shall take account of manufacturers' instructions.

 

[Secondincometrader]

Thanks all, much appreciated

 

[Toneyz]

So what has Part P got to do with it?

 

[Secondincometrader]

That my be just my ignorance, I thought that was the standard that domestic electric work had to comply with ?

 

[Toneyz]

That my be just my ignorance, I thought that was the standard that domestic electric work had to comply with ?

No BS7671 and any relevant other applicable standards.
Please don't tell me that
You are Part P qualified
Part P approved
Have an 18th/ Part P tester
Installing an 18th/Part P consumer unit
Going to issue a Part P certificate
or any of the other nonsense that gets around.
It is totally misleading.

 

[Secondincometrader]

See my original post

 

[Dustydazzler]

PartPee is not a qualification , it is not a guarantee of competence , it is not a badge of honour and it is not a assurance of good work.

I still hear jokers in the wholesalers saying they are PartPee qualified.

It has been 14 years and people still don't get it...

 

[DPG]

He's not saying he's part P qualified as far as I can see. He's asking if some work he has done complies with the relevant regs.

 

[coolsparx]

an electrician has installed a spur fuse(?) as part of a bathroom under floor heating installation. They removed a redundant plug socket just outside the bathroom and re-used it to instal the spur fuse. Several days later I noticed it wasn’t straight so thought I’ll straighten it when I come to paint the wall and need to remove it. Having done that I’ve now noticed that the original metal box is too shallow and I cannot screw the cover back on. The fuse unit would never fit in a box that shallow, I realised they actually filled round the edge, probably because there was a gap. Also there are no rubber grommets on the cut outs where the cables come in. I’m wary of trying to force the cover on in case the wires are cut by the box cut outs and the box becomes live. Does the use of an incorrectly sized box and the lack of rubber grommets mean the work is non compliant? Many thanks in advance.

A room containing a bath or shower is classed as a special location & as such needs to be notified to building control under Part P Building Regulations in England | Electrical Safety First - https://www.----------------------------/find-an-electrician/building-regulations/england/ either way, contact the electrician & tell him/her you are not happy.

 

[coolsparx]

Double posted

 

[DefyG]

What accessory is it, how deep is the box?
It may be the box is the correct minimum depth recommended by the accessory manufacturer but the cables are too long and coiled up within the box for the accessory (S/FCU) to go back flush?