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bagnall007

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hi im an industrial electrician and have a small question about connections, im planning to put some juntion boxes above the ceiling in the kitchen as the the kitchen ring was part of the ring for the rest of the house and i now want to take all sockets in kitchen out of this ring and give the kitchen its own ring.
My question is,is putting j/b in the ceiling ok if i use inline crimps with a calibrated crimper, would this be thought of as a permanent connection?

many thanks

Nick
 
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Spudnik

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No probs with that method.

However, any work in a special location (kitchen, bathroom garden etc), or any new circuits will need to be notified under Part P of the building regs.
 
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suburban

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hi im an industrial electrician and have a small question about connections, im planning to put some juntion boxes above the ceiling in the kitchen as the the kitchen ring was part of the ring for the rest of the house and i now want to take all sockets in kitchen out of this ring and give the kitchen its own ring.
My question is,is putting j/b in the ceiling ok if i use inline crimps with a calibrated crimper, would this be thought of as a permanent connection?

I've started using Ashley j/b's that have maintenance free connections, only downside is there expensive.
 
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Spudnik

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I've started using Ashley j/b's that have maintenance free connections, only downside is there expensive.
Must admit im very tempted to give these a try.

Are they as good as they say?
 
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Guest123

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Hey bud.

I havn't tried the ashley ones myself so would be interested to hear opinions.

I have tried the WAGOBOX ones and personally thought they were terrible.
 
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SparkSmog

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No probs with that method.

However, any work in a special location (kitchen, bathroom garden etc), or any new circuits will need to be notified under Part P of the building regs.
What do you mean by "notified under Part P of the building regs?

Im after putting some outside lights in my garden but im not sure about the whole part p certifications as i work in the Industrial sector

Thanks for any help!
 
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suburban

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Must admit im very tempted to give these a try.

Are they as good as they say?
They're easy to use and quick to do, and there's no screws to loose !
 
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pushrod

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What do you mean by "notified under Part P of the building regs?

Im after putting some outside lights in my garden but im not sure about the whole part p certifications as i work in the Industrial sector

Thanks for any help!
As i understand it - a new circuit going outside would need an EIC certificate either from a member of a certified persons scheme ie member of niceic, elecsa or napit, or you would need to inform your local authority building control who would want to come out and look at it. It would have to be rcd protected.
Not sure what the case is if you go for a transformer and extra low voltage, though suspect it is just the same.
 
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not clever

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Ashley box's are good but as said expensive at the moment.
I use the cheaper option of a 77p chock box from toolstation & use crimps instead of terminal strip. Quick easy & cheap.
 
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