Re-Wire Separate Kitchen Ring or Not??

[Hiddo]

Afternoon chaps

I have started a rewire today and initially I planned to put a separate ring in for the kitchen. However now I have started I'm not sure I need to.

It's a small terrace with living room (4 Doubles) dining room leading to the kitchen (4 doubles in the dining room & 6/7 points comprising double sockets and FCU's)

I couldn't convince myself one way or the other so I thought I'd ask on here.

Normally I always put a separate ring in for the kitchen but as this place is so small I'm starting to doubt myself.

Thanks in advance for your responses.

 

[monkeyelectric]

I would probably put a seperate kitchen ring in fella, lots of load in the kitchen and of course the freezer so you dont want the ring to trip in the night and ruin all the frozen goodies

 

[joe-sims]

no such thing as over kill ... but if you are bothered about it do front and back of the house rather than up and down with a kitchen on its own. but if you think about it the kitchen will use more power than the rest of the house combined, by the time you have all the appliances ect...

 

[Fin170]

It's better for discrimination to have more than 1 socket circuit per house

However I and millions of others have survived on 1 socket circuit and it's never been a problem

So If its fiscally practical it's better to put the kitchen(/floor/ area/etc) on it's own circuit if possible

 

[dagrat]

A separate ring for the kitchen is not a necessity in such a small installation. Two rings would suffice, upstairs and downstairs. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

 

[MDJ]

I always do the kitchen on it's own ring, but thats just me, I could even say 2 rings in there, one for the appliances and one for the general sockets for the microwave and kettle etc :43: but won't say it

 

[bigspark17]

up and down ring in that size property wont be a problem if your worried about freezer why not run a dedicated supply to freezer non rcd side, on surface with labels on accesory.

 

[Hiddo]

I'm going to stick to my guns and put a separate ring in for the kitchen. Thanks for your comments chaps!!

 

[Engineer54]

I'm going to stick to my guns and put a separate ring in for the kitchen. Thanks for your comments chaps!!

A good call!! The kitchen will always be the main power draw of any domestic installation. So if your in the process of rewiring this property, it's a no-brainer to provide the kitchen with it's own FRC. Your not just looking at today's power requirements, but also covering your customer for future additions....

 

[Octopus]

Seperate Kitchen ring on same RCD as upstairs ring - makes sense to me - plus if they get tripping in the future narrowing down the fault may be easier too.

 

[telectrix]

a RFC or a 4mm radial for the kitchen, the rest of the house on 2 20A radials. unless they've got 3kW heaters plugged in everywhere.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Afternoon chaps

I have started a rewire today and initially I planned to put a separate ring in for the kitchen. However now I have started I'm not sure I need to.

It's a small terrace with living room (4 Doubles) dining room leading to the kitchen (4 doubles in the dining room & 6/7 points comprising double sockets and FCU's)

I couldn't convince myself one way or the other so I thought I'd ask on here.

Normally I always put a separate ring in for the kitchen but as this place is so small I'm starting to doubt myself.

Thanks in advance for your responses.

keep a ring final to about 10 points.....so in this case pull either a 2.5/1.5 ring final in for the kitchen.....or go for a 4.0/1.5 A2 circuit......

 

[Spudnik]

I am on the middle of rewiring a small flat and have put in 2 rings, one of them is the kitchen.

Do it out of habit i guess.

 

[telectrix]

i've got 4 rings in my kitchen. ......... all on the hob.

 

[Hiddo]

Its in now. I did it today before I did anything else.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

i've got 4 rings in my kitchen. ......... all on the hob.

ah but do you know how to switch em on?...

 

[kingeri]

My kitchen has a 4mm radial for most of the sockets except two which I tagged onto the end of the living room 4mm radial. Was quicker and easier at the time, wouldn't do it if starting from scratch I guess.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

My kitchen has a 4mm radial for most of the sockets except two which I tagged onto the end of the living room 4mm radial. Was quicker and easier at the time, wouldn't do it if starting from scratch I guess.

nowt wrong with A2 circuits .....you use the best solution for the scenareo.....it may be a ring final.....or a radial....the choice is there....which is why i cant understand those that come in here pushing for one..or the other.....

 

[KRIS537]

Im looking at rewiring part of my house also. From what i have read if your renewing sections then this does not require current build regualtions, by this i mean new builds have to have a seperate ring mains to everything else.

Please correct me if im wrong , I have only just started learning some of the regs.

 

[Octopus]

Im looking at rewiring part of my house also. From what i have read if your renewing sections then this does not require current build regualtions, by this i mean new builds have to have a seperate ring mains to everything else.

Please correct me if im wrong , I have only just started learning some of the regs.

Changing a CU is notifiable and so is a partial or full rewire.

 

[DPG]

I think he means do not need to meet current regulations, rather than not notifiable. Daz

 

[Octopus]

I think he means do not need to meet current regulations, rather than not notifiable. Daz

I have to confess I was a little puzzled and hence the way I answered it. Either way if he's going to be meddling with existing circuit(s) then the sparky involved will need to ensure compliance.