Site agents rule the world

[cliffed]

Right t...t of a site agent,requesting all workers at all times to wear hard hats,no shorts,he's always right on any works,told him literally to f..k off,real unpleasant site to work on,anyone had the same treatment.

 

[Pete999]

Right t...t of a site agent,requesting all workers at all times to wear hard hats,no shorts,he's always right on any works,told him literally to f..k off,real unpleasant site to work on,anyone had the same treatment.

Did you get kicked off site? what sort of site was it?

 

[Joshua]

You sir, are my hero

 

[The Ghost]

Yeh just finished on a site the site foreman was really nice. The principal contractor was fine as well. Mind you he had all the electricians jumping through hoops. He came into the unit I was in and said "whats that 6mm² doing supplying the unit?" I said its 16mm². He said no its 6 mm ² He took a piece and stalked off around the the service alley. And other electricians saw him with the cable one of them came to my unit and said - What have you done now? I explained and meanwhile whipped out me micrometer (as you do) proved it was 16mm² by the time he got back. He said "Ah yeh its sometimes difficult to work out what size" I thoroughly agreed, and there was a little bit of tittering. I am not decrying the guy he designed the whole forty units supply and was on the job making sure everyones work was the way he wanted it, after all he is the boss so really all ok.

 

[Pete999]

Right t...t of a site agent,requesting all workers at all times to wear hard hats,no shorts,he's always right on any works,told him literally to f..k off,real unpleasant site to work on,anyone had the same treatment.

Not defending the a for mentioned Site Agent, but if the H&S rules say hard hats and work trousers at all time, then I suppose complaining would only get him worked up. If you were to take a different approach and ask him why you couldn't wear shorts, he may give you a valid reason, telling him to Fox trot Oscar would only make conditions worse, there may be a void reason for the ruling. Yes I have had B,stard site Agents in my time, but these Sods were born like it, everyone called him a B,stard but he knew it.

 

[cliffed]

Not defending the a for mentioned Site Agent, but if the H&S rules say hard hats and work trousers at all time, then I suppose complaining would only get him worked up. If you were to take a different approach and ask him why you couldn't wear shorts, he may give you a valid reason, telling him to Fox trot Oscar would only make conditions worse, there may be a void reason for the ruling. Yes I have had B,stard site Agents in my time, but these Sods were born like it, everyone called him a B,stard but he knew it.

Yea,the reason no one could wear shorts was because of using cement,being a sparky I really use that a lot.

 

[cliffed]

Yeh just finished on a site the site foreman was really nice. The principal contractor was fine as well. Mind you he had all the electricians jumping through hoops. He came into the unit I was in and said "whats that 6mm² doing supplying the unit?" I said its 16mm². He said no its 6 mm ² He took a piece and stalked off around the the service alley. And other electricians saw him with the cable one of them came to my unit and said - What have you done now? I explained and meanwhile whipped out me micrometer (as you do) proved it was 16mm² by the time he got back. He said "Ah yeh its sometimes difficult to work out what size" I thoroughly agreed, and there was a little bit of tittering. I am not decrying the guy he designed the whole forty units supply and was on the job making sure everyones work was the way he wanted it, after all he is the boss so really all ok.

Did you get kicked off site? what sort of site was it?

Did you get kicked off site? what sort of site was it?

No but felt liked i would of like to,just realised I didn't like him,he didn't like me,he said I had attitude,I've never had attitude in my life.

 

[cliffed]

You sir, are my hero

Thanks,they really are hard works worth,guaranteed to get you mighty peed off

 

[Pete999]

Yea,the reason no one could wear shorts was because of using cement,being a sparky I really use that a lot.

Maybe not but cement gets every where, don't know how old you are, but you wouldn't want to get cement dust in your knees or on your legs, it burns and isharmful, so I fully agree with agents rules.

 

[Pete999]

No but felt liked i would of like to,just realised I didn't like him,he didn't like me,he said I had attitude,I've never had attitude in my life.

Sorry mate but telling him to FO sounds as if you have got an attitude, sorry if that rankles, but I say it as I see it.

 

[cliffed]

Yea ok,you should of heard the things he called me before,it's not in my remit to swear ,but he deserved it,& I felt better after.

 

[cliffed]

Maybe not but cement gets every where, don't know how old you are, but you wouldn't want to get cement dust in your knees or on your legs, it burns and isharmful, so I fully agree with agents rules.

I'm old Skool,& realise this H & S does not suit all,especially when others are not obeying the rules on other sites.

 

[Specialist]

Been on a few sites like that. To be fair though, most site agents I've worked with have been spot on & good to work with.
Had one site with a total got though, he even created hell because we didn't wear hard hats when working 250' up in the air. Reckoned something could still drop on us, bloody idiot.

 

[cliffed]

Sounds similar,tilers were told to wear hats on the roof,when they complained ,he told them,if you take off your hat,then come down without your hat,you will get a warning ,so keep it on

 

[Midwest]

There are some people who take delight in applying the rules, just because they are in charge. Rules & regulations are there for a reason, its just how they are applied, is an art some people just haven't got.

 

[cliffed]

Funny enough though,it's a community hall,& church refurbish,when in church we are allowed to take hats off,god bless the site agent

 

[cliffed]

There are some people who take delight in applying the rules, just because they are in charge. Rules & regulations are there for a reason, its just how they are applied, is an art some people just haven't got.

Agree

 

[ruston]

Depends on the site , most of the sites I worked on you would not need anyone to tell you to wear a hard hat, and it was intant dismissal if you did not have it on.
Shorts are possibly fair enough indoors in a cushy environment , but not really suitable for a construction site or most industrial locations.
Don't forget - he is the man carrying the can if you get hurt.

 

[cliffed]

Agree....but....

 

[ruston]

I know

 

[Midwest]

Sigh.........hard hats, safety goggles, ear muffs sorry defenders, toe 'tectors, hi vis jackets, washing & toilet facilities, canteen etc etc. Makes you wonder how we survived all those years ago

 

[cliffed]

I know

Cheers

 

[cliffed]

Just done a health & safety course ,it says you must wear a hat if there is a danger of being hit on the head.
Safety footwear can be used,if there is a risk of your foot being injured,it's great ain't it.

 

[ruston]

It's the paper trail, and the scapegoat.
A lot of it is for the good though.
It's in the sentiment of the common sense poem.

 

[cliffed]

Yea I'm afraid that t..t just wound me up,I gotta forget.....

 

[Pete999]

Sigh.........hard hats, safety goggles, ear muffs sorry defenders, toe 'tectors, hi vis jackets, washing & toilet facilities, canteen etc etc. Makes you wonder how we survived all those years ago

Ah the good old days eh? Number 2s behind the nearest hedge, washing facilities no existent, wear what you like, stir your tea with a metal wall tie, up to your knees in mud, those were the days.

 

[ruston]

Yea I'm afraid that t..t just wound
me up,I gotta forget.....

Happens to us all.
We used to get them straight out of university.

 

[cliffed]

You gotta use those yellow step ladders too,I hate yellow.

 

[ruston]

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:

- Knowing when to come in out of the rain;
- Why the early bird gets the worm;
- Life isn't always fair; and
- Maybe it was my fault..

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge). His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.

Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.

It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or an aspirin to a student; but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.

Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims.

Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.

Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.

Common Sense was preceded in death, by his parents, Truth and Trust, by his wife, Discretion, by his daughter, Responsibility, and by his son, Reason.

He is survived by his 4 stepbrothers:
I Know My Rights
I Want It Now
Someone Else Is To Blame
I'm A Victim
Not many attended his funeral because
so few realized he was gone..
If you still remember him, pass this on.
If not, join the majority and do nothing.

 

[Pete999]

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:

- Knowing when to come in out of the rain;
- Why the early bird gets the worm;
- Life isn't always fair; and
- Maybe it was my fault..

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge). His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.

Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.

It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or an aspirin to a student; but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.

Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims.

Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.

Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.

Common Sense was preceded in death, by his parents, Truth and Trust, by his wife, Discretion, by his daughter, Responsibility, and by his son, Reason.

He is survived by his 4 stepbrothers:
I Know My Rights
I Want It Now
Someone Else Is To Blame
I'm A Victim
Not many attended his funeral because
so few realized he was gone..
If you still remember him, pass this on.
If not, join the majority and do nothing.

Excellent post well said ruston couldn't agree more.

 

[cliffed]

Well done that man

 

[Midwest]

I have a memory of sat in the works canteen eating my sandwiches, which was actually a container that housed all the site materials, boxes & cable drums were seating, a 3 bar electric fire was the site microwave, the toilet was round the back of the container, and the hand washing facilities were...well non existent. The heating for the container was, a donkey jacket, and nobody was wearing a hard hat, cos they hadn't been invented.

Least you could wear shorts if you wanted

 

[Ian1981]

No but felt liked i would of like to,just realised I didn't like him,he didn't like me,he said I had attitude,I've never had attitude in my life.

I got kicked off site once because I refused to write the word SPARE on a spare way in the db. the way i looked at it is someone came along and installed another circuit then it's got the word spare written on it.
You can tipex it out or get a sticker I guess but it looks messy.
Ridiculous really when I look back on it.
Site manager was an ar*e tho!

 

[Baker1988]

It seems to be the way it is now. The last site I was on we had to wear steel toe cap boots with sole protection, hard hat, gloves, safety glasses and if we took any of them off at any time while on the actual work site (not canteen) then it was a warning 2 warnings and the 3rd you are off site for good, I got told off twice for taking my glasses off just to wipe them as they was fogging up (they was anti fog glasses but I work very hard so still steam up) I even told him it was a lot more safe for me. To take them off and wipe them then to walk around not being able to see any thing in front of me but he didn't care that was the rules. I even cut my finger while working as I could not even see my hands properly to see what I was doing so stabbed my self with a screwdriver but again that was my fault for not working safely but if I had tried to wipe them and got caught I would of been off site haha its stupid.

 

[Specialist]

ruston: I'm with Pete, well put mate.

 

[cliffed]

Crazy world out there,really don't do any favours for us,all we wanna do is get a days work done,I really don't go to work thinking I'm gonna die today,if I ain't got my essentials on .

 

[IainEngland]

I have to have a permit to use my stepladder worn on my sleeve like a nightclub bouncer.

 

[Ian1981]

Crazy world out there,really don't do any favours for us,all we wanna do is get a days work done,I really don't go to work thinking I'm gonna die today,if I ain't got my essentials on .

I consider my essentials to be wearing clean underwear

 

[ruston]

ruston: I'm with Pete, well put mate.

It is a poem I often think of before I get wound up.

 

[Specialist]

It is a poem I often think of before I get wound up.

Nice, I've never read that one before

 

[StephenRowley]

Its not so much health safety as it dont get sued culture. Let be fair if your income on the line if something goes ---- up and it found out that ignored a ruling from those above. You'd be a ------- too.

 

[ruston]

Here is another one for you then. Not a poem but the start of a prayer .

 

[Des 56]

These stepbrothers of common sense also seem to be growing lads,they pervade all walks of life yet are worshipped by fools

 

[paul291277]

Currently on a final warning to be kicked off site because I've been caught twice taking my plastic specs off to view a wiring drawing, same numpty advised me to lean one of the half height sides of a tower against a wall on top of an unsecured scaffold plank whilst (he) was wearing no safety specs, just so he could sort his problem out.... most H&S guys I've worked with are good ............but!!!!!

 

[Toneyz]

A risk assessments should be done and PPE used to reduce this risk however a lot of sites will operate as hard hat boots glasses gloves etc. across the board this way it is easier to administrate and protects their own back sides. You will find that the site manager that has come via a trade is much more practical regarding these matters.

 

[cliffed]

Agree,this guy was in the trade,but gives nothing back.

 

[Paul.M]

I have to have a permit to use my stepladder worn on my sleeve like a nightclub bouncer.

"nightclub bouncer" LOL.

Armband permit for Hot Works, Drilling, Confined spaces (a cupboard the size of a small bedroom lol), working on the roof and Ladders....... No permit needed to erect and work on a 10m tower scaffold????? Crazy

 

[Diddy]

Bigger the site you tend to find the rules pretty tight. Blanket orders, doesn't matter if you are the cleaner or the guy working in confined spaces....Hat on, Steelies on, Specs on, Masks and gloves too on some sites. I remember my 1st big site (Channel tunnel) and everything you could think of was "instant dismissal".....Bearing in mind we were probably clearing double or triple what we would outside the tunnel then most complied lol. It was the Micheal Kane style safety specs though.....you HAD to wear them from when you entered the site to when you left...something to do with the sand flying around in the air apparently.

 

[telectrix]

..you HAD to wear them from when you entered the site to when you left...something to do with the sand flying around in the air

sand, or was it them froggies?

 

[paul291277]

"nightclub bouncer" LOL.

Armband permit for Hot Works, Drilling, Confined spaces (a cupboard the size of a small bedroom lol), working on the roof and Ladders....... No permit needed to erect and work on a 10m tower scaffold????? Crazy

Me too, because wearing some combustible material around your arm whilst carrying out hot works makes it much safer surely!