Unswitch spur

[Delboy247]

Anything wrong with having a un switch spur behind an intergrated appliance as it can be tight having a 13 amp socket cheers.

 

[Adam W]

If you have a DP switch for it above the counter I can't see a problem with that.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

No need for DP switch, an SP will suffice.

 

[telectrix]

personally i prefer D/P, if only to isolate both live and neutral in case of an earth fault, without disconnecting at spur.

 

[Delboy247]

That's the dilema there is only a single socket behind the appliance.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Technically the device in the CU offers isolation.

 

[telectrix]

could you not feed a new socket in an adjacent cupboard from the one behind the appliance. blank plate old socket if you want. that would give you local isolation.

 

[telectrix]

Technically the device in the CU offers isolation.

not a good idea. that would knock out all sockets on that circuit.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

That's why I said technically.
Your suggestion to spur off the existing socket to another cupboard sounds favourite.
I'd consider not blanking off the existing socket for future use, unless that socket is itself a spur.

 

[telectrix]

That's why I said technically.
Your suggestion to spur off the existing socket to another cupboard sounds favourite.
I'd consider not blanking off the existing socket for future use, unless that socket is itself a spur.

agreed, the socket could be blanked though, using wagos to connect, and could easily then be reinstated if required.

 

[nickblake]

Technically the device in the CU offers isolation.

correct in some sences but you are required to be able to isolate locally just in case some one switches the breaker back on ,yes i know about lock offs not so easy with a rewireable, sorry spotted the rest of your post ,, you should never wear glasses and drink wine ,blury vision and all that

 

[WDMDL]

Why not use a switched fused connection unit with flex outlet to the bottom (rather than the front)

That's compliant, and not much deeper than the socket outlet would be on it's own without a plug.

Functional switching - on the appliance.

Isolation and "switching off for mechanical maintenance" - the SFCU

Emergency switching - the MCB/RCBO in the CU.

I accept you're making do with the situation you have, but at the design stage for new work you'd put the means of isolation in a more accessible place, eg above the worktop.

Simon.

BTW... if the appliance comes with a moulded plug, it may void the warranty if you cut it off. Best have a chat with the manufacturer's tech helpline to clarify.

 

[BlueToBits]

I always thought that all accessories must be accessible? Is it permitted to have an outlet or joint behind a built-in appliance? or is this one of those "regulations" one assumes, but does not actually exist?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Connections must be accessible.

 

[IQ Electrical]

Connections must be accessible.

526.3 makes 4 exceptions to this, notably with connections made by compression tool or resin-filled.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Sorry, Non-permenant connections must be accessible.