2012 inspection and testing writen exam (very eassy paper

[rezarougi]

hi,buddies today was the 2391 written exam and i must say that it was a fairly eassy paper, and i'll be disapointed if the national average success is gone to be as low as the december 2011 one (37%)

 

[FirstSpark]

I agree, it was fairly easy. Section A tested knowledge on a range of subjects. Section B asked about the usual testing procedures: Continuity of circuit protective conductor on a lighting circuit, Insulation Resistance on a ring final circuit, RCD test, the reason to carry out Earth Fault loop impedance test and 2 conditions that must be true to conduct this test, etc. Also 8 marks of the last question was on verify the measured values of Zs using the "rule of thumb", in other words .8*(the max Zs as tabulated in BS7671).

 

[rezarougi]

yes ,u right and probably the only tricky question was the continuity of the r1+r2 of the swa cable

 

[rezarougi]

wich center did you went to?

 

[Guest112]

Good luck with your results boys was a happy man the day i got my 2391
ATB

 

[Engineer54]

Sounds like they have just lowered the standard ...Yet again!!!

 

[Paul.M]

I agree with E54 (for a change lol). When I did mine section B asked to basically design a tt system in a marina! Not easy.

But anyway gents hope you get a cardboarded envelope in the not too distant future.

 

[Ben Grant]

I took the exam thursday as well. Sadly not my first time, but 1 question that bothered me was it asked what checks need to be made and what they involve. it was in section B and it was for the outside lighting circuit in the car park wired in SWA 2 core. i answered with 5 tick boxes from the schedule of inspections and detailed what the check invloved? anyone think i should have replied differently?

 

[IQ Electrical]

I took the exam thursday as well. Sadly not my first time, but 1 question that bothered me was it asked what checks need to be made and what they involve. it was in section B and it was for the outside lighting circuit in the car park wired in SWA 2 core. i answered with 5 tick boxes from the schedule of inspections and detailed what the check invloved? anyone think i should have replied differently?

Generally these questions are looking for items to be listed from 2.6.3 of Guidance Note 3 but you may have done that depending on how you described the checks-items such as:

Glands correctly selected and fitted with shrouds & supplementary earth tags
Acceptable internal bending radii
Correctly supported cable run

etc etc.

 

[Ben Grant]

i mentioned 'erection methods', 'connection of conductors', 'identification of conductors', 'adequacy of access to switchgear and equiptment', 'routing of cables'

 

[timbobelfast]

They were also asking what was involved in each of checks. I put visual, touch etc etc aswell.

 

[Guest123]

Can anyone confirm that this was the 2391 and not the new 2394 or 2395???

 

[timbobelfast]

Lenny this was 2391-301.

 

[lardy]

Just out of interest, where are the figures for the pass mark for the DEC 2011, (37%), and was that for the written or over all the exams, (practical?)

 

[Ben Grant]

They were also asking what was involved in each of checks. I put visual, touch etc etc aswell.

Ah ok, I left that bit out as there is a question that's asks 'name 3 senses that would be used'. Although that's not a bad thing mentioning it. If there are 15 marks available then you would get 3 marks for each correctly identified check I guess

 

[Sparky Ninja]

I've tried to upload yesterdays paper, but there appears to be a database error, I will try again later.

I have queried the increasing simplicity of the papers over the past 5 or 6 sittings with my C&G EV.
I suggested to him that it appears as if the C&G are trying to get the papers passed to deplete the backlog of outstanding 2391 resits to allow them to stop writing 2391-301 papers so they can concentrate on the 2394 and 2395 (these new courses, I might add, cost training centres a lot more to enrol delegates and so earn C&G a lot more money).

I had a smirk in response and was not told I was wrong.



Good luck to all regardless.

 

[timbobelfast]

Lardy as far as I know that is the figure for the theory only, and they don't seem to disclose the actual pass mark, just the percentage of people who pass or fail.

 

[timbobelfast]

Regardless, it is always the Practical part that will challenge the candidate.
There are people who aren't practicing electricians passing the exam.

 

[Dean]

When i sat mine, out tutor told us around the 60% mark is a pass, How true that is i don't know.

 

[timbobelfast]

It is a national average, so it depends on how everyone else throughout the UK perform.

 

[Dean]

Yes, it's a floating pass mark, around 60% is what i implied. May go up if students do well, may go down if the results are poor.

 

[Guest123]

I have queried the increasing simplicity of the papers over the past 5 or 6 sittings with my C&G EV.
I suggested to him that it appears as if the C&G are trying to get the papers passed to deplete the backlog of outstanding 2391 resits to allow them to stop writing 2391-301 papers so they can concentrate on the 2394 and 2395

Or, it's a taste of whats to come......


Call me Mr Cynic but I cant see the trend bucking myself.:disguise:

 

[rezarougi]

designing a tt system in a marina or outside a farm house is the same as long as you know the princ & regs about tt