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Re: 3 KW fan heater plug `Pins` are Hot when pulled out of socket - What causes thi
"Hello All",
As I felt a bit irritated and embarrassed by the comment from a Member who must have thought that I was an Idiot and who remarked something similar to `Call youself an Engineer` ! ? ! - [I am a Heating Engineer] - I wanted to Post an explanation about why the `Resistance` factor / Faulty Plug wiring which caused the Plug Pins to become HOT [Not `Warm`] was NOT at all obvious to Me:
HERE is an `explanation` about My Electrical knowledge [or lack of it] - AND why I am a Member on the Electricians Forum for the Member who was so quick to `decry` Me:
I would have `learned` about `Resistance` and many other aspects of Electrical Theory and practice during ACOPS Courses in the 1990`s and again during the CORGI Defined Scope [Heating] Part P Course and Assessments in 2005.
BUT - I always wanted My Heating System Controls wiring carried out by an Electrician who could then issue a Certificate for it - usually also having either rewired the Home or at least having carried out an Electrical Safety Inspection - the Majority of My Heating Systems were for Housing Associations during the 1990`s and up to about 2008.
I got into the `If You don`t use it you lose it` scenario regarding not being able to remember the Electrical Theory that I had `learned` during those Training Courses and Assessments - I was NEVER `using it` and as a consequence I have forgotten most of it - even the `Simple` Theories.
My question about the Plug Pins getting VERY Hot [Not `Warm`] was something that as a Heating Engineer I have never come across - Why would I - ?
I do realise that this comment leaves Me `wide open` to Members questioning whether I should ever be doing any Electrical task - which is why I do not carry out Electrical Works - preferring to leave it to the Professionals.
It was never My intention to do My own Heating Controls wiring - the ACOPS Courses and Assessments in the 1990`s - Electrical Safety [`Essential Electrics`] and Electrical Installation for Mechanical Services were My idea of ensuring that I was `Safe` to work on Heating Appliances - which obviously have an Electrical supply - and theoretically being able to `Prove` that with the ACOPS Certificates - IF ever necessary.
I do realise that this type of Course and Assessments are `Despised` by most of the Members - BUT - I was NEVER trying to become an Electrician - Just trying to `learn` how to ensure that I was working Safely on Heating Appliances.
The CORGI `Defined Scope` Part P was with the idea of `enabling` Me to carry out My own Controls Wiring - If absolutely necessary - i.e. an Electrician was not available - but this was never required as at that time the Building Contractor who I was getting most of My Plumbing and Heating Work from contracted all the Electrical work to a Self Employed Electrician.
And at His Clients insistance ALL the Electrical Works within the Refurbishments of properties that His Company carried out had to be Certificated by the same Electrician / Electrical Installation Company - obviously including the Heating System Controls - which is why that Electrician wired My Heating Systems.
As I did not get to the stage of wanting to do My own Electrical Work I did not obtain any Testing Equipment - [luckily regarding the perceived Costs] - another reason why I would not carry out Electrical Works.
It is now so long ago since I would have been able to remember most of what was in those Courses and Assessments that I would never carry out any Electrical Works.
Although Members will be thinking - `We don`t want to read your Life Story` on here - I wanted to try and clarify exactly My `position` regarding Electrical Work - Also I have NEVER tried to give advice on any Electrical matter on this Forum.
Because I was helped by topquark regarding an unusual wiring question on Heating Controls - which fell beyond the `Normal` methods / wiring systems - I decided to try and be Helpful to Members of the Forum in return regarding Central Heating problems.
NOT regarding Wiring Questions but more in a `Diagnostic` manner to try and identify the offending Control - or possibly Errors in the Design / Pipework configuration - although this is obviously VERY difficult in a Forum situation.
That is why I am a Member of this Forum - I became a Member to Post an Electrical question - received valuable Help from a Member - topquark - and then decided to show My gratitude and `Give Back` some knowledge from My own Trade / Profession - Heating - Plumbing & Gas Installation.
I hope that Members have not been Bored with this.
Regards,
Chris
"Hello All",
As I felt a bit irritated and embarrassed by the comment from a Member who must have thought that I was an Idiot and who remarked something similar to `Call youself an Engineer` ! ? ! - [I am a Heating Engineer] - I wanted to Post an explanation about why the `Resistance` factor / Faulty Plug wiring which caused the Plug Pins to become HOT [Not `Warm`] was NOT at all obvious to Me:
HERE is an `explanation` about My Electrical knowledge [or lack of it] - AND why I am a Member on the Electricians Forum for the Member who was so quick to `decry` Me:
I would have `learned` about `Resistance` and many other aspects of Electrical Theory and practice during ACOPS Courses in the 1990`s and again during the CORGI Defined Scope [Heating] Part P Course and Assessments in 2005.
BUT - I always wanted My Heating System Controls wiring carried out by an Electrician who could then issue a Certificate for it - usually also having either rewired the Home or at least having carried out an Electrical Safety Inspection - the Majority of My Heating Systems were for Housing Associations during the 1990`s and up to about 2008.
I got into the `If You don`t use it you lose it` scenario regarding not being able to remember the Electrical Theory that I had `learned` during those Training Courses and Assessments - I was NEVER `using it` and as a consequence I have forgotten most of it - even the `Simple` Theories.
My question about the Plug Pins getting VERY Hot [Not `Warm`] was something that as a Heating Engineer I have never come across - Why would I - ?
I do realise that this comment leaves Me `wide open` to Members questioning whether I should ever be doing any Electrical task - which is why I do not carry out Electrical Works - preferring to leave it to the Professionals.
It was never My intention to do My own Heating Controls wiring - the ACOPS Courses and Assessments in the 1990`s - Electrical Safety [`Essential Electrics`] and Electrical Installation for Mechanical Services were My idea of ensuring that I was `Safe` to work on Heating Appliances - which obviously have an Electrical supply - and theoretically being able to `Prove` that with the ACOPS Certificates - IF ever necessary.
I do realise that this type of Course and Assessments are `Despised` by most of the Members - BUT - I was NEVER trying to become an Electrician - Just trying to `learn` how to ensure that I was working Safely on Heating Appliances.
The CORGI `Defined Scope` Part P was with the idea of `enabling` Me to carry out My own Controls Wiring - If absolutely necessary - i.e. an Electrician was not available - but this was never required as at that time the Building Contractor who I was getting most of My Plumbing and Heating Work from contracted all the Electrical work to a Self Employed Electrician.
And at His Clients insistance ALL the Electrical Works within the Refurbishments of properties that His Company carried out had to be Certificated by the same Electrician / Electrical Installation Company - obviously including the Heating System Controls - which is why that Electrician wired My Heating Systems.
As I did not get to the stage of wanting to do My own Electrical Work I did not obtain any Testing Equipment - [luckily regarding the perceived Costs] - another reason why I would not carry out Electrical Works.
It is now so long ago since I would have been able to remember most of what was in those Courses and Assessments that I would never carry out any Electrical Works.
Although Members will be thinking - `We don`t want to read your Life Story` on here - I wanted to try and clarify exactly My `position` regarding Electrical Work - Also I have NEVER tried to give advice on any Electrical matter on this Forum.
Because I was helped by topquark regarding an unusual wiring question on Heating Controls - which fell beyond the `Normal` methods / wiring systems - I decided to try and be Helpful to Members of the Forum in return regarding Central Heating problems.
NOT regarding Wiring Questions but more in a `Diagnostic` manner to try and identify the offending Control - or possibly Errors in the Design / Pipework configuration - although this is obviously VERY difficult in a Forum situation.
That is why I am a Member of this Forum - I became a Member to Post an Electrical question - received valuable Help from a Member - topquark - and then decided to show My gratitude and `Give Back` some knowledge from My own Trade / Profession - Heating - Plumbing & Gas Installation.
I hope that Members have not been Bored with this.
Regards,
Chris
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