Evening guys

[Ross1]

I have been offered the electrical work at a nursing home near me, which will entail any new works, problems that are beyond the capabilities of their handyman, periodic testing and PAT testing.

I would appreciate any advice on how to price their annual PAT testing which is due?

I have not really gone after PAT before, but am now considering putting one of my employee`s on a course as the enquiries are becoming more frequent.

Advise would be appreciated

Thanks

 

[davesparks]

Any electrician should be able to do appliance testing with no more training than reading a copy of the current code of practice

 

[telectrix]

as above. pat testing to a qualified spark is like driving a soapbox to a F1 driver.

 

[Ross1]

I have the current version of "the code of practice" which I`ve given to one of my guys to get familiar with. Its the pricing I need advice on, especially in a nursing home environment.

Cheers

 

[Sintra]

How much do you charge per hour for your employee? How many items could your employee realistically test per hour? Once you have these 2 figures then it is a simple matter of division to get a price per item.

 

[topquark]

and don't forget the additional time taken to document it all, labels and equipment lists etc :blush5:

 

[Ross1]

Anyone familiar with the type of PAT involved in a functional nursing home. I know my rates, just not the time taken in that type of environment.

 

[topquark]

Don't forget that the new code will include fixed type equipment as well. So that will include things like electric bath hoists etc. As it's a full nursing home (and not just a care home) find out if the remit covers the residents kit (TV's, radios etc) or just the care home kit. You will need to include all of the kitchen kit as well.

 

[SJD]

I do a certain amount of work in a couple of care homes, and I often find a job will take somewhat longer that it might otherwise.

Things like slower to move about the premises due to locked doors with keypads; having to wait for not-very-mobile residents moving about; having to wait till people are up/dressed before accessing a room; not being able to turn power off at certain times; not being able to leave things unattended (which means some jobs need 2 people), not being able to put ladders in corridors, etc.

There is no 'out-of-hours', these places operate 24/7.

So it depends on the job, but some things will take 50% longer (or more) that you'd otherwise expect.

At the places I visit, PAT testing includes anything residents bring in - ideally before they get to use it. So on occasion I've have to stop by to test one item that has just been brought in. Oh, and they need to know if the bath hoists still work in a power cut with battery backup (it turned out they didn't, despite what they had been told).

 

[Ross1]

That's more like it topquark & SJD.

thanks guys

 

[ruston]

I do a certain amount of work in a couple of care homes, and I often find a job will take somewhat longer that it might otherwise.

Things like slower to move about the premises due to locked doors with keypads; having to wait for not-very-mobile residents moving about; having to wait till people are up/dressed before accessing a room; not being able to turn power off at certain times; not being able to leave things unattended (which means some jobs need 2 people), not being able to put ladders in corridors, etc.

There is no 'out-of-hours', these places operate 24/7.

So it depends on the job, but some things will take 50% longer (or more) that you'd otherwise expect.

At the places I visit, PAT testing includes anything residents bring in - ideally before they get to use it. So on occasion I've have to stop by to test one item that has just been brought in. Oh, and they need to know if the bath hoists still work in a power cut with battery backup (it turned out they didn't, despite what they had been told).

Sometimes with an escort too.
It can get tedious and can be quite quite hot.

 

[Risteard]

Don't forget that the new code will include fixed type equipment as well.

In fairness the 3rd Edition already had them within its scope.

 

[Dave OCD]

Sometimes with an escort too.
It can get tedious and can be quite quite hot.

Without being unkind certain areas can smell very unpleasant too.