Forged quals, dangerous work!!! Long story but worth the read!

[Dave 85]

Please give the names of ANY politician past or present, from any party, that isn't a crook and/or blatant liar??

I have no party political affiliations whatsoever, and you tend to get to see the bigger/greater picture when your overseas. What i can say from my observations over a good number or years is, that there have been far bigger crooks than Blair. The vast majority and biggest of them all coming from the Conservative Party... lol!!

I am not particularly interested how much of a crook the prime minister is to be honest, but the fact is, labour p***ed the UK economy up the wall, for us and our children, just to keep the overpayed civil servants and proffesional unemployed voting for them so they could continue to line their pockets with the expenses scandal.

I can't say much about Thatchers government, I was just a nipper then, but anyone who thinks that, in this day and age, we'd be better off with a labour government than a tory one....well.......

But then you and I rarely agree on anything....

 

[Guest55]

I can remember Thatchers Goverment and whether you like or hate her , her determination and tough decisions brought about
one of the most prosperous periods in modern times for the UK , not to mention giving the Argies a thrashing in the Falklands war.
Nothing causes more arguements than religion and politics lol.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Blair was a slippery C...
My Old Man (RHS) life long, active Labour Party member, when asked 'What do think of TB? Not a lot!
Thatcher, at least you knew were you stood with her, good or bad.
If I was an Economical genius I'd stand for Parliament and try and sort the sh!t we're in now.
Unfortunately I'll have to continue in my poverty stricken misery.
And you think Part P is bad...

 

[Engineer54]

I am not particularly interested how much of a crook the prime minister is to be honest, but the fact is, labour p***ed the UK economy up the wall, for us and our children, just to keep the overpayed civil servants and proffesional unemployed voting for them so they could continue to line their pockets with the expenses scandal.

I can't say much about Thatchers government, I was just a nipper then, but anyone who thinks that, in this day and age, we'd be better off with a labour government than a tory one....well.......

But then you and I rarely agree on anything....

We won't on this topic either then!! lol!!

Seems that there is some short memories around when it comes to Maggie T!! Who under her management sold off almost all of the UK's public wealth, one area and industry after the other. That era, was the start of the ''Greed'' culture that your all now feeling the consequences of!!

Now, ...i wonder where all those under priced shares ended up?? In the share portfolio's of the man on the street who isn't interested in stocks and shares, (but saw them as a quick sell profit)?? Or maybe into the portfolio's of Maggie's already wealthy friends?? Yep, they bought the vast majority of all the shares across all the previously public owned resources the first day each of the share options hit the market!!

There is no real difference between any of the UK parties, ...It'll always be a case of Heads I Win and Tails you loose!! They all work for themselves and not the country, unless it suits their purpose!!

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[Engineer54]

I can remember Thatchers Goverment and whether you like or hate her , her determination and tough decisions brought about
one of the most prosperous periods in modern times for the UK , not to mention giving the Argies a thrashing in the Falklands war.
Nothing causes more arguements than religion and politics lol.

Now you ARE talking TOSH!! lol!!

 

[Silly Sausage]

I vaguely remember those days, think that's why I hate BT, the massive profiteering that was made from it, was it the 1st sell off, was Gas next? Something like, but you already own it anyway!

When's the Chinese bubble going to burst? If they haven't destroyed the planet with their pollution in the meantime.

 

[alarm man]

I can't say much about Thatchers government.

i'll remind you then..that bitch destroyed the manufacturing in this country,sold off all the national industries,destroyed the working man and his communities,the mines/yards/steelworks replaced with call centres,created towns full of kids with no hope and no future to satisfy the greed of her capatilist cronies which exsists as much in todays tory party as it ever did.and she did it out of spite...

 

[Guest55]

We won't on this topic either then!! lol!!

Seems that there is some short memories around when it comes to Maggie T!! Who under her management sold off almost all of the UK's public wealth, one area and industry after the other.

Er , no , completely incorrect.
Gordon Brown & Labour sold the UK's gold reserve and stripped all the private pensions , undermining our countrys' finacial independance.
Maggies privatising of various sectors created wealth that would have become stagnant under state ownership.

I can see the mods shutting down this thread in the very near future lol.

 

[thekingiam]

all i can say is i used to enjoy the free milk until thatcher stole it from me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like taking sweets off a child!!

 

[Guest55]

Now you ARE talking TOSH!! lol!!

Well at least provide some sound economic reasoning to go with your wild opinion.

 

[alarm man]

Maggies privatising of various sectors created wealth that would have become stagnant under state ownership.

for who? the small few,nationalized industries were not there to make a profit,they were there to provide services for the people at a cost we could afford,they also created jobs,lots of them too,ever moan about the cost of untility bills,blame thatcher who gave these private co's a licence to print money

 

[Swicade]

I heard a rumour there's a secret society that do course's on being a politician.....once you get accepted 5 weeks later you get your Qualifications and once a year you get invited to a 'Renewal Teaparty' where you only have to hand over a substantial sum of money to stay part of the gang.

You can be a member of said gang for life.....as long as your not a day late paying your subs.

 

[telectrix]

Really dont want to read stuff like this!!

Iv done things the right way, well in my eyes anyway. Gone to college for XXXXXXX years, worked unsociable hours to get experience, gone without holidays or going out enjoying myself for three years to pay for my courses and save for setup costs. Studied and studied and studied to the point where my misses was close to dumping me. Got distinctions or very high pass marks in every exam iv taken from ECS,PAT,2330,2382,2392,2391.

Now iv paid £576 to join Napit, £187 for insurance, having to setup a mini office and everything tht goes with tht to look professional.

Plus im going to have to take on a few notifiable jobs at almost a loss once iv paid LABC £166 just so i can use them for my napit assessment.

Then i read this thread and others simular like this and im wondering tbh why should i bother!!

you should be able to do the assessment jobs, then notify through napit once accepted.

 

[trev]

There's a book called The Enemy Within. I'd recommend any politically minded member to read it, it details MTs rise to power and her agenda from cabinet meeting minutes where her ideas and intentions were discussed in detail.
I shall say no more but read the book then comment on whether you think she was so great for this country

 

[Silly Sausage]

Put the darling Mrs T aside!

One of the reasons manufacturing has gone from this country is because the so called 3rd world countries are catching up with 'The West'
They now have technology and knowledge what we used to do at a much cheaper cost (p ss poor wages etc, separate discussion)
We now have to keep that one step ahead with our genius British innovation.
Unfortunately our hi tech export doesn't match the garbage we import.

Quality British engineers working abroad doesn't really help matters...

 

[Dave 85]

Its all very well you lefties banging on about thatchers government but that was over 20 years ago. Do you guys really think the UK would be better off if labour had stayed in power, with their astronomical defecit, growing year on year leaving the taxpayer with interest payments that would eventually probably be greater than public spending?

Like I said, I can't speak for thatchers government but what Cameron is doing is mostly good, and for the good of the british economy and was the only obvious way forward. What Blair and Brown did, especially Brown towards the end, was purely done to win votes from the people who are, for a large part, deadweight, excess baggage in this country at the expense of the taxpayer.

Now one of you please tell me we would be better off still under Brown without mentioning MT....anyone....no...though not.

 

[trev]

You think it's better under Cameron?
What's needed is a sensible plan to reduce the defecit not just slash and burn plans like we have now. Do you think it's a good idea to slash everything incuding police, fire brigade and education budgets, or are the they all a bunch of deadweights too?

 

[alarm man]

Its all very well you lefties banging on about thatchers government but that was over 20 years ago. Do you guys really think the UK would be better off if labour had stayed in power, with their astronomical defecit, growing year on year leaving the taxpayer with interest payments that would eventually probably be greater than public spending?

Like I said, I can't speak for thatchers government but what Cameron is doing is mostly good, and for the good of the british economy and was the only obvious way forward. What Blair and Brown did, especially Brown towards the end, was purely done to win votes from the people who are, for a large part, deadweight, excess baggage in this country at the expense of the taxpayer.

Now one of you please tell me we would be better off still under Brown without mentioning MT....anyone....no...though not.

your a typical right wing rag beliver,its those scum taking all the benefits thats ruined the country,its me and you paying them to watch tele while we graft and pay our taxes..in short,as i coluld be typing for 20yr to get the point across,we have 2 types of people,those who cant,those who wont,the first could be those who cant because of a disability,or the fact there isnt any jobs,the second,they fall into the tory bracket to me as they share the same values,maximum profit from doing as little as possible on the backs of those who do,the later would have no place in a communist society anyway,everyone must contribute to society,those who take take be it the greedy bosses and the greedy individual who wont work and take what they are not entitled too are one and the same,thats a capatilist mentality not a communist/socialist one..you could try reading the works of marx or lenin to get a broader veiw instead of reading the sun..

 

[Guitarist]

Anyone who thinks that the MT empire was a good one obviously doesn't understand the term "asset stripping". It's very easy to make a Country rich and prosperous when you sell everything it owns. Not so good for the next generation 20 years down the line who finds that everything belongs to another Country who can charge you whatever they like in the name of profit.
I was a teenager during the 80's and we were told that you should become successful, whatever the cost.... Obviously, I took no notice

 

[Dave 85]

You think it's better under Cameron? Yes
What's needed is a sensible plan to reduce the defecit not just slash and burn plans like we have now. Do you think it's a good idea to slash everything incuding police, fire brigade and education budgets, Yes
or are the they all a bunch of deadweights too? No

There is no money for excessive public spending! We have no choice!