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Eng54 kinda scares me.... There is no doubt that he knows so much about this line of work, but I would be scared to ask him a question directly!
eng54 won't bite. if you asked him a direct question, i'mm sure you'd get a civil, educated and pertinent answer.
 
Eng54 kinda scares me.... There is no doubt that he knows so much about this line of work, but I would be scared to ask him a question directly!

Don't be, ...just make sure it's not a question that a first year trainee would/should know!!!
Unless you are a first year trainee of course!! lol!!
 
Don't be, ...just make sure it's not a question that a first year trainee would/should know!!!
Unless you are a first year trainee of course!! lol!!

Why is that pyro round and twin and earth flat? Oh and why no earth in the round stuff?
 
I had to wire the s plan boiler controls for a plumbing and heating company i work for reguarly

it turns out it was at the house of the electrician they use to use for all their electrical works but when part p came in he retired as he was in his early sixties anyway and didnt want the hassel, i took over from him

from the start of the job he was on me like a rash, litterally nose in my ear watching every move i made, making remarks about us whippersnappers in the trade nowadays(i'm 35)


well, well well, after listening to him bang on about how many years he was in the trade and all the things hes seen and done and the apprentices he has trained into expert electricians blah blah blah


i only had to wire up the new heating system from an existing spur,

1.5mm spurred from ring circuit supplying6x fcu units, 1x immersion tank, 2x pumps, 1x booster, boiler and bathroom UFH


sorted that out, then found room stat wired in 2 core t&e with bare earth as live out, not even sleeved, 13a fuse in boiler fcu

no main bonding at all, i explained to him that i had to install it to cert the job, and he just couldnt get his head round it, said it must be another rediculous regulation just been brought out!!
he said it was pointless as he had allready installed an earth rod.......he had, as he said, installed a rod, but the system was a tns with a ze of .21 so totally pointless

i hate to think of the work this bloke has left behind him over the last 40 years

This is a perfect example of why you should need an NVQ3 etc to get a gold card.
He sounds like he just wanted a quick qualification without learning anything so he could go out making money calling himself an "Electrician" - his brain works the same way as the Electrical Trainee kids.
 
This is a perfect example of why you should need an NVQ3 etc to get a gold card.
He sounds like he just wanted a quick qualification without learning anything so he could go out making money calling himself an "Electrician" - his brain works the same way as the Electrical Trainee kids.

I'm afraid you put far, far too much faith in these NVQ 3, they are to all intent and purposes nothing but a sticky plaster patch for the lack of practical working experience. They are also wide open to fraud and abuse!!
 

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