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I'm looking to purchase quite a few led lamps I've looked on eBay they are around £3 each from china direct anyone else got them cheaper! They will last there duration but buying from a wholesaler they want £7 each I've got 2 sites on the go both with 10 houses and each house takes 30 ish lamps hence the question I'm looking to save some dosh
 

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you got a link to these chinese ones? might be worth a gander.
 

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Is this serious?...


Anyway dont buy the cheap LED's they dont last, trust me this is from experiance. There crap, buy decent otherwise you'll be going back over the next year replacing them. We were supplied deltech LEDs for a job, bit more expensive than what your looking at but still poor, started going after 1 week. You get what you pay for with these.
 

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Never paid 3 quid a lamp. Have used ones from LED hut and Energy Bulbs and as of yet no had any failures.
 
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let us know on the quality.

your price I would say is rock bottom - £2.22 for a 4w led seems pretty good to me.
 
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I agree, that's very cheap and most likely nasty, the driver would be the cheapest rubbish available, the heatsink would be low quality aluminium, full of impurities and poor thermal performance. The LED package itself would not be any brand name, perhaps one known as " chimmie" loosely translated into English, its Chinese and crap. the light output would still be similar to that of say a medium quality LED brand such as Epistar or Bridigelux usa, but its light degredation rate would be woeful. The entire thermal pathway would be flawed, from the LED waffer, to the material the PCB is constructed of, to the drivers capacitors to the heat sink ( heat spreader) itself. and any claimed certification it may claim to have would be dubious.
 
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So as i said im buying quite a few at a time to get the price down and if they are good you would want to know right? Instead of paying £7 a lamp from a wholesaler in this country including tax, import,, vat and there proffitt etc because as mentioned that's why they are the £7 and purchasing direct cuts that out hence my £2.22p per lamp buying 30/40 at one time
Forgot to mention they have a 2 yr guarantee and 50,000 hours same as the £7 ones you will buy from the wholesaler
 
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You shouldn't have to query prices with your wholesalers but we all do!!
 

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i bought some osram ones last week - made in china. the chinese are wher the japanese were 50 years ago. we laughed at jap stuff as cheap and nasty then. now japanese is a byword for quality!
 

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A little off the OP but does anyone know if the slightly longer GU10 lamps fit into the twist lock type fire rated fittings?

My thinking is that these type of fittings have move room in the can as oppsed to the type where the lamp connector is fixed in place.

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They will be fine. I bought some to try out 8 months ago and they are still going strong, cost me £2.50 a lamp. At that price they have paid for themselves anyway compared to a normal GU10 which lets face it is a quid or more for anything decent. I'm sure they all come from the same factory similar to mcb et al.
 
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heres the update on these cheapo led lamps!!! what a bargain.

as i said in an earlier post when you buy from a wholesalers in the uk your also paying tax,vat,proffit etc
 

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i was looking at these lamps myself the other day, do they fit normal fire rated downlights? are they dimmable?
 
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Yes they fit normal gu10 fittings if there is a clip on the lamp holder you need to remove it
they are not dimmable Either not for £2.22 p
 

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cheers for response,in no hurry at the momment,if these flood the market then hopefully other retailers will lower there prices.
 
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sedgy34

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I've had some tamlite spots from Cef exactly the same as aurora fitting and on the lamp holder there's a little metal clip that stops the lamp from sitting correctly the clip isnt doing anything special and if you remove it it doesn't affect the fitting or warranty etc if you see one you will know what I mean
 

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Is the sort of large circlip that sits around the bezel, inside?

Have bent the 2 end so they point down instead of inwards in the past. That was on the fittings that required it to hold the lamp in though.
 
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i bought some osram ones last week - made in china. the chinese are wher the japanese were 50 years ago. we laughed at jap stuff as cheap and nasty then. now japanese is a byword for quality!
Totally agree with that statement...

China is at a very similar position as to where Japan was, in it's early day's. But China is moving forward far quicker than Japan ever did. Couple that, to very nearly every top brand name in the world now manufacturing/operating out of China, and you can't honestly say everything manufactured in China is crap or sub-standard, it most certainly isn't!!. Yes there is still a lot of fake crap about, so you do still need to be wary before you purchase. But it won't be too long i think, before those cowboy manufactures will be effectively outlawed...Basically because they will end-up damaging the very lucrative conventional and legitimate markets for Chinese goods...
 
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