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Completely disagree mate. It's a common misconception that the 2391/94/95 sorts the wheat from the chaff. Too many 5WWs hold it as they have been schooled for the exam and dragged through it on their course.

I specifically left this qual out of the poll for this very reason :)

Can you just clarify for me what your option 1 on the poll is. I have the the 2356, I think is that been replaced by the 2357. What other qualifications are in the diploma? Thanks.
 
As already mentioned,there would have to be divisions made to identify areas of "expertise",which invariably would mean multiple tests/qualification requirements etc,for the lads who bridge the domestic/industrial/commercial industries. These additions would in all probability carry separate time and cost implications. This would only result in a similar scenario to today,where lads either do not bother (and this will ALWAYS apply) or have to carry the cost burden whilst competing against those who,as said,do not bother. Your strive for a solution is admirable,but you will always have to accept a certain compromise. That said,your striving will always have my support.
 
Read my post #5 mate.

If anything the new 94 and 95 combined is a tiny weeny bit harder than the 2391 IMHO, but it is still pi$$ easy for any spark worth his weight.

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I do not mind admitting that I found the 2391 far from a doddle , admittedly I passed first time with flying colours . but over half the class did not , mind it was near on 10 years ago now so maybe standards have dropped ?
 
Can you just clarify for me what your option 1 on the poll is. I have the the 2356, I think is that been replaced by the 2357. What other qualifications are in the diploma? Thanks.

2356 is the NVQ, the 2357 is the new replacement, so yes, if you have the tech cert (2330), the NVQ (2356) and the AM2 then you would be classed in my eyes as a fully qualified spark.

It is important to note the difference between the 2356 and the 2365. Both entirely different lol
 
Unfortunately I don't have the 2330, but we all have to start somewhere. I suppose the other option would be that you have to sit in front of a panel of people such as your good self and be interegated until you have been bled dry then apply some of your knowledge to a really nasty test rig or something.
 
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Now you can see why I have no website !!!! :leaving:

Haha, no worries bud :)


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I do not mind admitting that I found the 2391 far from a doddle , admittedly I passed first time with flying colours . but over half the class did not , mind it was near on 10 years ago now so maybe standards have dropped ?

Nothing to be ashamed of there mate, the thing is, in your day people were schooled to achieve a certain level of knowledge, exams were harder to pass, standard of work was higher!

Nowadays, the exams are still the same (hardness wise), but people are schooled to pass the exams rather than to achieve a certain level of knowledge, exams are easier to pass but the standard of work is lower.
 
Put it all back to where it was, and still is in Jocklandshire.
Run by the JIB/SJIB and defined descriptions of the grades including the one about an electrician cannot work on his own. Needs to be approved.
The system was not broken so why did they try to fix it (fixit, geezzz).

Boydy
 
I suppose though like anything, bits of paper are not always the best answer, someone might have no qualifications, but can demonstrate better skills and have more hands on experience. But for a way of obtaining a licence it's not going to work saying how many rewires have you done (clearly we will know who would own licence number 10000001 if it did work that way) so it really would have to be by way of recognised qualification.
 

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