Lights in porch soffit

[Tinyotall]

Hi could someone clarify. Would lights in a porch soffit be a minor or major cert?

 

[DurhamSparky]

Minor or Major..

you have Minor works or Electrical installation....!!!

if new circuit then EIC
if spur from circuit MW

plus its Notifiyable to LABC

 

[yellowvanman]

If adding to an existing circuit - Minor.

Generally if you have to go into the CU to add/change a fuse or breaker then its 'major', all else is minor!

 

[Tinyotall]

Sorry GU10 downlights spured from hall light.

As a secondary question would led lights make a difference to the cert?

 

[DurhamSparky]

no led would not make a difference..!!

what is the IP rating of your lights...!!

 

[Tinyotall]

ip55, are led not classed as elv? and does that not make a difference? been reading lots of things and they all contradict....

So if fitting with 12v does this make a diffence? (dam my head hurts)

 

[nick611]

No. existing circuit exstended [minor works cert] . type of fitting makes no difference

 

[nick611]

your ip rating isn;t that big a factor. your lights are in a soffit, rain dos,nt fall upwards

 

[DurhamSparky]

your ip rating isn;t that big a factor. your lights are in a soffit, rain dos,nt fall upwards

must be the most stupidest comment i have heard...!!! so what about directional rain...!! i.e where the wind blows it..! oh and moisture....

 

[nick611]

nope not all outside fittings are ip 4 rated some are only ip2 so not such a stupid answer was it. know it all

 

[Octopus]

ip55, are led not classed as elv? and does that not make a difference? been reading lots of things and they all contradict....

So if fitting with 12v does this make a diffence? (dam my head hurts)

12v powered by a battery may be different!

 

[DurhamSparky]

how do you know he was going to fit IP rated lights!!!

you need to get off your high horse and think logical with your brain for a change!!

 

[nick611]

moisture in the air has no effect on electrical fittings i,ve seen plenty of batton holders under open porches with no problems. so your post was pretty stupid

 

[Adam W]

ELV wiring (data, coax etc) doesn't need notifying, but if you're installing MR16 lamps the chances are you'll also be installing transformers, which use a 230v feed.

 

[DurhamSparky]

yawn...!

 

[nick611]

you should remember that this is a fourum. not a stage for you to have a pop at other people or make out you know more than anyone else

 

[telectrix]

load tubes 1,2,and 3 !!!!!

 

[Tinyotall]

ELV wiring (data, coax etc) doesn't need notifying, but if you're installing MR16 lamps the chances are you'll also be installing transformers, which use a 230v feed.

sooooo... would these MR16 need a Electrical Cert or a minor?

 

[DurhamSparky]

Minor!

 

[Adam W]

If you're just extending an existing circuit minor, if adding a new circuit EIC.