Moving socket on ring

[Shpark]

Hi all,

Moving a socket on a ring 30cm sideways. Depending on how the cables come in, was going to through crimp the t & e, heat shrink over it and put it in some capping/oval conduit, bury in wall and then plaster over.

This sound acceptable?

Cheers

 

[streamer]

If the existing cable is running vertically and you move the socket to the left or right then the original cable will no longer be in a prescribed safe zone so no, it wouldn't be acceptable.

 

[Shpark]

If the existing cable is running vertically and you move the socket to the left or right then the original cable will no longer be in a prescribed safe zone so no, it wouldn't be acceptable.

No, I did think that. So would that mean chasing out and moving it over?

 

[brianmoooore]

Not if the cables come down the wall in the plaster. With the socket gone, they will no longer be in a safe zone.
Leave the existing socket in place (or replace it with a 2G blanking plate) and it will be fine.
When ever a customer asks me to move a fitting, I point out that 'moving' a fitting is two jobs - removing the old and fitting the new, but adding a fitting is just one job.

 

[streamer]

No, I did think that. So would that mean chasing out and moving it over?

Yes, unless as brianmoore has suggested you can leave the existing one and just add a socket

 

[Lucien Nunes]

I won't mention the compatibility between the crimps and the cable, and wonder whether the assembly would be accepted as MF to BS5733, as it won't feature in your solution due to the zone issue.

 

[marconi]

Hi all,

Moving a socket on a ring 30cm sideways. Depending on how the cables come in, was going to through crimp the t & e, heat shrink over it and put it in some capping/oval conduit, bury in wall and then plaster over.

This sound acceptable?

Cheers

No

 

[DPG]

No

Unusually short reply from you!

 

[marconi]

Unusually short reply from you!

Was there more to be said?

 

[telectrix]

no.... but could say more, but it's too much effort.

 

[Shpark]

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No

What’s the issue?

 

[DPG]

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What’s the issue?

Unless I've misunderstood, once you move the socket some of the cables will no longer be in prescribed (AKA 'safe') zones.

 

[Shpark]

Unless I've misunderstood, once you move the socket some of the cables will no longer be in prescribed (AKA 'safe') zones.

Okay okay. Let’s ignore the safe zone thing because I’ll adhere to this. I’m asking if the way of jointing the ring is acceptable

 

[stevethesparks]

I'd prefer wagos rather than crimps on a solid core cable.

 

[DPG]

Okay okay. Let’s ignore the safe zone thing because I’ll adhere to this. I’m asking if the way of jointing the ring is acceptable

Crimps and two layers of (ideally adhesive lined) quality heatshrink are potentially OK. It does rely on proper crimps and an appropriate tool though.

 

[westward10]

Not sure I would be burying solid conductors, assuming they are solid with crimp connectors again assuming you are going to use those red/blue/yellow types.

 

[DPG]

Not sure I would be burying solid conductors, assuming they are solid with crimp connectors again assuming you are going to use those red/blue/yellow types.

That's why I stipulated that it relied on the correct crimps and tools being used.

 

[nicebutdim]

SpliceLine In-Line Wire Connector Orange (Pack of 10)

Crimp-free push-in butt splice

www.cef.co.uk

With suitable containment?

 

[stevethesparks]

I was assuming the existing back box to be used with blank, my apologies if I assumed wrong
Edit: should have read post 1 correctly

 

[DPG]

I was assuming the existing back box to be used with blank, my apologies if I assumed wrong
Edit: should have read post 1 correctly

That would probably be a better way for the OP to do it. And use Wagos. Mind you, if doing that then he might as well leave the original socket there.