New road tax system

[newtothis]

All I know is you could buy a motor with say 12months MOT and 6months tax (transferable) now you can't.
And as far as I know the seller can't get their full 6months back either.

Having a little moan - I think it takes the rip roaring hiss that mini cab drivers don't have to pay road tax cos they have low ommission vehicles.
They're still using the roads more than your average punter, and they are generally more of a PITA.

Is non payment of road tax a car crushable offence ?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Yes they can impound your vehicle, charge you storage then crush it and also charge you for that.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Yes they can impound your vehicle, charge you storage then crush it and also charge you for that.

The ability to take a joke is a prerequisite to being a resident in this God awful country nowadays.

 

[GMES]

Mods,

This thread should be merged with another thread.

http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...ical-forum/107476-we-just-nation-moaners.html

Why is that then, I started both threads about 2 seperate topics so why would they get merged.

 

[hightower]

Why is that then, I started both threads about 2 seperate topics so why would they get merged.

I think it was tongue in cheek, another way of saying we are definitely a nation of moaners

 

[GMES]

Oh ok I haven't had enough coffee this morning.

 

[andyb]

Why is that then, I started both threads about 2 seperate topics so why would they get merged.

That was a joke Gmes, I never presume to tell the mods their job.

I clicked on a thread entitled new road tax system and read post after post of moans.

Happy new year.

 

[GMES]

That was a joke Gmes, I never presume to tell the mods their job.

I clicked on a thread entitled new road tax system and read post after post of moans.

Happy new year.

Apologies Andy I didn't mean to reply like that, I haven't been up long which isn't good for me I don't like these late nights and not having to get up early, I'm used to being on the move from 6am.
See I'm moaning again lol you may have been right the 1st time :tounge_smile:

 

[Midwest]

Yep the death of the road tax disc has caused a slump in the sales of Guinness beer mats.

Interestingly in April 2017, there are changes afoot to the road tax rate, for newly registered cars. My Missus car road tax is currently £20 a year, thank you very much, cos of it's 108 g/km emissions. Same car registered in April 2017 will cost you £140.

And if you stupid enough to buy a car costing £40,000 (or you can and you don't care two hoots), your pay a supplement £310 (for 5 years). The other gas guzzlers will pay a higher fee in first year of registration, and then revert back to the £140 fee.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-excise-duty/vehicle-excise-duty


:dizzy2:

 

[andyb]

Apologies Andy I didn't mean to reply like that, I haven't been up long which isn't good for me I don't like these late nights and not having to get up early, I'm used to being on the move from 6am.
See I'm moaning again lol you may have been right the 1st time :tounge_smile:

Absolutely no worries,

Would it help if I gave you a call at 6 tomorrow morning?

 

[Flanders]

Don't Know if this is any help I still have a nokia 3210 so cant try it Im afraid


https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/tax-disc-reminder/id995345285?mt=8

 

[joehat]

Me too so no reminder required. You just keep paying until you get rid of the vehicle.

Same
Simples

 

[7029 dave]

My tax disc holder is used for my parking machine tickets now.

 

[shanky887614]

But the dvla/vosa don't yet know that the vehicle has changed hands therefore you'll be unable to tax it again during a 'taxed month'.

that caused me issues so i ended up driving it for a couple days untaxed.

its a farce, you should be able to have tax against you self and just register/deregister the vehicles reg to it.

 

[hightower]

that caused me issues so i ended up driving it for a couple days untaxed.

its a farce, you should be able to have tax against you self and just register/deregister the vehicles reg to it.

I sort of agree, I have a few vehicles but I can only drive one at a time. ...

 

[shanky887614]

When you phone/go online you select the option for new keeper and you can tax it. I know because I did this when I bought I my van earlier in the year. Is bought it on the 22nd and was able to tax it

if a vehicle has sat for a while sworn with no tax/mot/insurance it needs to be taxed to drive it to mot centre

 

[shanky887614]

I sort of agree, I have a few vehicles but I can only drive one at a time. ...

thats my point as well, if you have 10 vehicles thats £2000 a year.

it would be easier if it was say alall linked to your ni number as well

 

[Deleted member 72666]

if a vehicle has sat for a while sworn with no tax/mot/insurance it needs to be taxed to drive it to mot centre

Yeah, it's 'catch 22' and the only way around it(without taking it on a trailer) is to pre book a MOT appointment and as long as you drive the most direct way within reason will escape any penalties should you be stopped by the authorities.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

The simplest thing would be to scrap car tax, and raise the tax on fuel.

 

[Deleted member 72666]

The simplest thing would be to scrap car tax, and raise the tax on fuel.

....And the fairest imo!

 

[shanky887614]

Yeah, it's 'catch 22' and the only way around it(without taking it on a trailer) is to pre book a MOT appointment and as long as you drive the most direct way within reason will escape any penalties should you be stopped by the authorities.

but then no tax to get from test centre and that makes it difficult for private sellers.

for example i bought my van off durhamsparky 100miles away

 

[Deleted member 26818]

You can drive a vehicle to an MOT test centre and then back home or to a garage for repairs without MOT or tax.

 

[davesparks]

You can drive a vehicle to an MOT test centre and then back home or to a garage for repairs without MOT or tax.

Only if the appointment is pre-booked can you drive to and from an mot test without a valid mot. The same for the trip to a garage for mot repairs, it must be pre-booked.
But you can still be done for any defects on the vehicle if they stop you.
And you may not be covered by your insurance without a valid mot.

 

[davesparks]

You can only drive an untaxed vehicle to and from a pre-booked mot, identity check, weight check
However you cannot drive an untaxed vehicle to a garage for any repairs

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Yes it has to be pre-booked, yes technically you can be done for any dangerous conditions, no your insurance is still valid.
They must have changed the law then, as you have always been allowed to take a vehicle from a test centre to a place where repairs can be carried out.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

According to this page:https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test, you can still take your vehicle to a garage after failure.

 

[davesparks]

Yes it has to be pre-booked, yes technically you can be done for any dangerous conditions, no your insurance is still valid.
They must have changed the law then, as you have always been allowed to take a vehicle from a test centre to a place where repairs can be carried out.

It depends on your individual policy, they will all claim that they won't cover you without an mot but I think most would provide third party cover only.

 

[davesparks]

They must have changed the law then, as you have always been allowed to take a vehicle from a test centre to a place where repairs can be carried out.

Without an MOT you can, but you can't take it for repair without tax.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

According to Schedule 2 of the Vehicle Excise and Registration act (Section 22), we can still take an untaxed vehicle to somewhere for repairs to be made. May have to pre-book.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Here are the relevant paragraphs:
A vehicle is an exempt vehicle when it is being used solely for the purpose of—

(a) submitting it (by previous arrangement for a specified time on a specified date) for a compulsory test, a vehicle identity check, a vehicle weight test or a reduced pollution test], or
(b)​

bringing it away from any such test or check.

(1A)​

A vehicle is an exempt vehicle when it is being used solely for the purpose of—

(a)​

taking it (by previous arrangement for a specified time on a specified date) for a relevant re-examination, or

(b)​

bringing it away from such a re-examination.

(3)Where the relevant certificate is refused on a compulsory test, or a reduced pollution test,]of a vehicle or as a result of a relevant re-examination,] the vehicle is an exempt vehicle when it is being used solely for the purpose of—
(a)​

delivering it (by previous arrangement for a specified time on a specified date) at a place where relevant work is to be done on it, or

(b)​

bringing it away from a place where relevant work has been done on it.