price work rewires

[assegayer]

hey guys

just want to ask are those one day rewires worth it in terms of money...they seem pretty good to be honest.. yes i know ur a tool and the rest of it.

but like 550 for 1 bed

could be split like this

2 sparks 250 each

mate/labourer 50 quid

and the job can be done in one day. whats ur thoughts i dont mind working extra hours even 10 hours is fine

 

[derbylad]

hey guys

just want to ask are those one day rewires worth it in terms of money...they seem pretty good to be honest.. yes i know ur a tool and the rest of it.

but like 550 for 1 bed

could be split like this

2 sparks 250 each

mate/labourer 50 quid

and the job can be done in one day. whats ur thoughts i dont mind working extra hours even 10 hours is fine

a decent mate/labourer is worth more than 50 a day,if you want to get it finished in a day you will need a fairly decent standard of help...50 quid wont do it. Bit greedy wanting 250 for you and 50 for the guy who helped you make your money!! The game is a mess at the moment 500 quiz for a rewire is a joke

 

[AndrewMgan1976]

Would £50 not be below the National Minimum Wage?

 

[malcolmsanford]

Not if you are from the Eastern side of Europe

 

[Guest77]

hey guys

just want to ask are those one day rewires worth it in terms of money...they seem pretty good to be honest.. yes i know ur a tool and the rest of it.

but like 550 for 1 bed

could be split like this

2 sparks 250 each

mate/labourer 50 quid

and the job can be done in one day. whats ur thoughts i dont mind working extra hours even 10 hours is fine

Well it won't be done properly, it takes 4 hours to test and fill in certification, there will be time invoicing and chasing payment as well, add that up and 10 hours isn't enough even for a one bed flat, there must be several sockets and lights, cooker, shower bonding dist board, certification etc etc etc, have fun with that.

 

[derbylad]

Not if you are from the Eastern side of Europe

do you think you will find a slave from the eastern side of Europe who will help you do this job in a day? I think you will end up trying to explain what you want him to do most of the day and that's what happens when you pay peanuts you get monkeys. Its just plain greed you expect 250 while you want a man to work like a dog for 50? Dream on

 

[baldsparkies]

See why the trades going down hill.
Better off driving a bus :frown2:

 

[assegayer]

do you think you will find a slave from the eastern side of Europe who will help you do this job in a day? I think you will end up trying to explain what you want him to do most of the day and that's what happens when you pay peanuts you get monkeys. Its just plain greed you expect 250 while you want a man to work like a dog for 50? Dream on

lol just put the mans name down as an apprentice. isnt that what everyone does these days...

only joking lad that was just an example off course i would not pay someone 50 quid...100 quid will do for the labourer and 200 quid in the sparks pockets... theres no mentioning of testing

 

[assegayer]

but there are plenty of people believe me they will be happy with 50 quid a day. labouring with break cash in hand...at the end of the day its just labouring u dont have to study it in college

 

[camerabloke]

Ha. Thought you said £50 an hour. That'll be my rate on a 1 day rewire

 

[Guest77]

but there are plenty of people believe me they will be happy with 50 quid a day. labouring with break cash in hand...at the end of the day its just labouring u dont have to study it in college

I have never had a labourer go home without being exhausted fella so at 50 a day it is wrong. Now most of the guys here know I am a socialist so obviously I will never agree with 50 quid for a 10 hour hard day, I would price the job at £1,300, £225.00 a day for the sparks and 125 a day for the mate with 100 quid left for the paperwork and certification/ chasing the money, hense my earlier comment that 550 isn't acceptable money. Being a mate on a rewire is serious graft, 50 a day is appalling JMO.

 

[assegayer]

we are all entitled to opinions and i agree with yours..
but sometimes u just have to accept the fact that i know a 1 bed rewire should not be 550 quid and that somebody else is making bigger money. but at the end of the day of its not me or you someone else will be up for it..and 200 aint bad at all even if 12 hours put in

 

[Andy78]

we are all entitled to opinions and i agree with yours..
but sometimes u just have to accept the fact that i know a 1 bed rewire should not be 550 quid and that somebody else is making bigger money. but at the end of the day of its not me or you someone else will be up for it..and 200 aint bad at all even if 12 hours put in

I personally would leave that for someone else then. I'll be damned if someone is going to make money off me busting my nuts.
Surely round your way that money for those hours is far from remarkable, and I'm sure it could be acheived without working under pressure every day, not going til it's done, and exploiting some poor sod to do it.

 

[assegayer]

you will be suprised mate. the going rate here is around 15 to 20 quid for sparks...supervisors at 17 to 23 quid..

 

[7029 dave]

£50, what can I say,? BUT plenty of guys on this forum offering their services for free. lol

 

[Welchyboy1]

I used to test the flats rewired, for a company that were done in a day by a three man team, they were absolute lash ups

pvc trunking and singles, using the old embedded conduit where they could

had to have three sockets per room, so in each room they just stuck three doubles next to each other lol

fuse boards were the best entertainment

i quickly became the most unpopular bloke on site!

 

[assegayer]

I used to test the flats rewired, for a company that were done in a day by a three man team, they were absolute lash ups

pvc trunking and singles, using the old embedded conduit where they could

had to have three sockets per room, so in each room they just stuck three doubles next to each other lol

fuse boards were the best entertainment

i quickly became the most unpopular bloke on site!

as long as you got the money in pocket aye mate

 

[Lazlo]

550 for a lash up, pattresses over pride, switch it all on if nothing goes bang make up the results and head off for a well deserved sleepless night. Or do a proper job for proper money and let somesome other mug do a backflip for £250.

 

[assegayer]

550 for a lash up, pattresses over pride, switch it all on if nothing goes bang make up the results and head off for a well deserved sleepless night. Or do a proper job for proper money and let somesome other mug do a backflip for £250.

the problen is mate its not as easy as people are saying 'yeah just go and find proper money' as if i can just go and find a rewire to do quoting it all my self

 

[davesparks]

the problen is mate its not as easy as people are saying 'yeah just go and find proper money' as if i can just go and find a rewire to do quoting it all my self

Why can't you go and find your own work?

 

[assegayer]

Why can't you go and find your own work?

by the word 'find' what do u mean...iv advertised pretty much everywhere asked everysingle builder in my area all taken mate...no rings on the phone either

 

[shanky887614]

by the word 'find' what do u mean...iv advertised pretty much everywhere asked everysingle builder in my area all taken mate...no rings on the phone either

too many sparks in your area then mate, it would be a good idea to look further afield or look for different work than house bashing.

the Electrical Trainee will be fighting each other over these jobs

 

[Lazlo]

Try kitchen and bathroom fitters, they always require electricians. Or letting agents and landlords, you won't need many to be busy....watch the agents on paying.

 

[davesparks]

by the word 'find' what do u mean...iv advertised pretty much everywhere asked everysingle builder in my area all taken mate...no rings on the phone either

I've never advertised, but have found plenty of work.
When I first went self employed I started off doing bits for family and friends who then handed out business cards to all their friends, plus I called a few contacts I had made as an apprentice and let them know I was available.

 

[Welchyboy1]

Why can't you go and find your own work?

You pay a high price for not having your own work in this game! Lol

all you get is the scraps left over

 

[newtothis]

NO mate, you can't afford eastern Europeans, you'd be lookin' at failed asulym seekers or other 'vulnerable' people - etc.
Hang yer head in shame dude !

 

[shanky887614]

NO mate, you can't afford eastern Europeans, you'd be lookin' at failed asulym seekers or other 'vulnerable' people - etc.
Hang yer head in shame dude !

you say that but some people do actually work for that

 

[stevethesparks]

No wonder so many of my quotations get ignored, I'm probably being undercut the same way. This was once a good profession, now its becoming akin to a barter at a Moroccan market.

 

[shanky887614]

No wonder so many of my quotations get ignored, I'm probably being undercut the same way. This was once a good profession, now its becoming akin to a barter at a Moroccan market.

the biggest problem is they will use your quote to try to knock the first one down

 

[stevethesparks]

I think the biggest problem is trying to do everything right and correct, and that many customers do not appreciate what's involved and go simply on price.

 

[newtothis]

you say that but some people do actually work for that

Yes I know what people will do when in desperation. I don't know why I care, but I do.

 

[LankyWill]

were expected to first fix new build houses in a day. Just me and an apprentice and i mean everything from drilling, boxing and wiring to ducting, finishing off. Its a joke we manage it but the work is average joe at best. It annoys me because you should be allocated the time to do a decent job. I hate doing it but some other sod will if i dont and i dread to think of how he does it. Thats why price work is awful and the prices are low. We get £250 for a first fix to split between 2 of us and we have to pay the office monkeys. I usually get £80-£120 per first fix depending on size.

 

[Robert Turnbull]

1 day!! your dreaming unless you have a polished crew who have been doing this for a while or your just lashing it in.

One of my Sparkys with an apprentice will be finishing a 1 bed flat he started on monday tomorrow.

 

[LankyWill]

My excuse for a company mantra is one day for everything. The prices are so low that if you took your time you would get paid peanuts

 

[vjsmarwick]

Rome wasn't built in a day and you cant put quantity over quality when your putting peoples lives at risk its a fare days pay for a fare days work ! no wander there is no work in your area if everything is done in a day but next week there will be more work after this weeks work has gone on fire so just be patient ! lol

 

[malcolmsanford]

do you think you will find a slave from the eastern side of Europe who will help you do this job in a day? I think you will end up trying to explain what you want him to do most of the day and that's what happens when you pay peanuts you get monkeys. Its just plain greed you expect 250 while you want a man to work like a dog for 50? Dream on

Dream on are you having a giraffe!!!!

Before I left these golden shores I was doing a refurb in Oxford Street and the workforce was mainly from Eastern shores. These guys would have bit your hand off for 50 quid a day, and these were sparks not mates in London!!!

Though I was just the consultant I was also asked to snag the work and apart from a few things the standard was acceptable if not spectacular. OK forget the 17th edition they had a supervisor who knew this, or so he said, but you only have to look on here and see some of the questions asked, there are few Brit sparks who know the 17th.

So for a grand a month for a 50 hour week, not only would you get your mate, but most likely a whole team in to do your rewire while you sat in the van.

This is where my trade has ended up. We are paying for all the Bankers, investment houses, insurance brokers Et Al to be in this wonderful European Club. Yes while the UK benefits from all this, which again is another debate there have had to be a few sacrifices, and we were the first ones up to the alter while the high priest was sharpening his knife.

A day to rewire a one bed flat, yes everything is possible, what you get after that day is debatable. Thank god I'm coming to an end in this game. You young guys, best of luck I really mean it.

 

[newtothis]

here's a teaser for y'all - see if you can guess what's going on in this snap taken 21st may 2015

 

[Diddy]

"Testing not mentioned" best laugh I have had in a wee while. For £550 I would quite happily wire your shed with 2 double sockets on each wall and 2 lights. I might even run in the mains cable for good measure lol.
If your area of work is really London then you are going wrong somewhere if you cant achieve £200-£250 per day on day work. I lived in Canterbury, Kent for 13 years and I was achieving those sorts of figures until I left in 2006. I accept that prices have not really went up or even come down slightly but I am still in regular contact with my band of subby buddies that I generally looked after...and they did the same for me btw. they tell me that in the main prices are static.
If you are a proper sole trader then you should just look at getting a cards in job or even sub direct for a few firms as the hassle of being a sole trader is not worth it if you can't achieve rates well in excess of what a day rate subbing direct would be.
I have heard of the one day rewire teams....they have been going around since the year dot. Some of them really do a good job and work bloody hard and long hours.....BUT they do this for EXTRA ££££ not just for something near the normal day rate.

 

[Welchyboy1]

here's a teaser for y'all - see if you can guess what's going on in this snap taken 21st may 2015
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ha thats just off the a406 isnt it, like that every day!

 

[Welchyboy1]

were expected to first fix new build houses in a day. Just me and an apprentice and i mean everything from drilling, boxing and wiring to ducting, finishing off. Its a joke we manage it but the work is average joe at best. It annoys me because you should be allocated the time to do a decent job. I hate doing it but some other sod will if i dont and i dread to think of how he does it. Thats why price work is awful and the prices are low. We get £250 for a first fix to split between 2 of us and we have to pay the office monkeys. I usually get £80-£120 per first fix depending on size.

You are making someone ALOT of money!