questions to ask the scam assessor

[sedgy34]

I posted my scam day soon what should i ask him feel free to comment
this is going to be a laugh!!!!

 

[Octopus]

Q. Why is there no enforcement of Part P "misdemeanours"??

 

[nickblake]

Why do shed sell consumer units knowing that they are going to be bought and installed by un regesterd diy chaps and chapess'

 

[TaffyDuck]

1. How can a not for profit organisation fleece its customers to the tune of £400+ for a half day assessment and offer so little in return?
2. How does a not for profit organisation justify paying its employees massive salaries to the direct detriment of hard working sparkies through-out the country?
3. Why does a multi million pound contractor pay the same as a one man band?
4. Why is there no cost effective alternative to your "services"?

 

[DNS1]

Why do shed sell consumer units knowing that they are going to be bought and installed by un regesterd diy chaps and chapess'

Because the law lets them...

At the end of the day, the DIY stores sell because they can and make a profit... It's not their job to police the industry...

They also sell knives and axes, knowing that they COULD be used to kill people.

 

[Adam W]

• Can a TN-C-S be exported to a shed?
• Should a neutral be taken to a switch?
• Should black or grey be used as neutral in 3 core cable?
• Which colour should be used as common in 2 way lighting circuits?
• Do fast track courses offer the same level of training as a full apprenticeship?
• If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
• Why do bad things happen to good people?

 

[Octopus]

1. How can a not for profit organisation fleece its customers to the tune of £400+ for a half day assessment and offer so little in return?
2. How does a not for profit organisation justify paying its employees massive salaries to the direct detriment of hard working sparkies through-out the country?
3. Why does a multi million pound contractor pay the same as a one man band?
4. Why is there no cost effective alternative to your "services"?

Best questions so far.

 

[sedgy34]

it is an half day assessment lol

 

[sedgy34]

• Can a TN-C-S be exported to a shed?
• Should a neutral be taken to a switch?
• Should black or grey be used as neutral in 3 core cable?
• Which colour should be used as common in 2 way lighting circuits?
• Do fast track courses offer the same level of training as a full apprenticeship?
• If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
• Why do bad things happen to good people?

your not allowed to export pme externally from the installation (apparantly)

 

[Guest55]

• Can a TN-C-S be exported to a shed? Yes
• Should a neutral be taken to a switch? Yes
• Should black or grey be used as neutral in 3 core cable? Grey
• Which colour should be used as common in 2 way lighting circuits? Brown
• Do fast track courses offer the same level of training as a full apprenticeship? No
• If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? Yes
• Why do bad things happen to good people? Fate , sh&t happens , etc.

Tin hat on , flame suit on , nuclear bunker locked down :-D

 

[Geordie Spark]

• Can a TN-C-S be exported to a shed?
• Should a neutral be taken to a switch?
• Should black or grey be used as neutral in 3 core cable?
• Which colour should be used as common in 2 way lighting circuits?
• Do fast track courses offer the same level of training as a full apprenticeship?
• If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
• Why do bad things happen to good people?

... and finally: Why don't you "go away" & leave me alone ??!!!

 

[sedgy34]

Why don't you use a pillow to sleep on instead of a regs book

 

[Silly Sausage]

How much do you get paid for being 'An all knowledgeable Guru?'

Saw Tony Cable (I assume) & sidekick today at ELEX on their presentation stage, same old 10 most asked Qs and how to fill an EICR, what a waste of time.

 

[DNS1]

your not allowed to export pme externally from the installation (apparantly)

Don't ever understand this one...

Surely this means EVERY garage/shed etc needs its own spike...

What on earth (excuse the pun!) is wrong with using the installation earth as long as the Zs of each circuit is within limits?

 

[Guest55]

How much do you get paid for being 'An all knowledgeable Guru?'

Saw Tony Cable (I assume) & sidekick today at ELEX on their presentation stage, same old 10 most asked Qs and how to fill an EICR, what a waste of time.

He has his own NIC youtube vids , how to's on testing for simpletons etc... lol quite funny.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Thanks Biff, but I think I'll stick with sublimedirectory...

 

[Guest55]

Thanks Biff, but I think I'll stick with sublimedirectory...

Are they a rock group ?

 

[Top Cat]

How about, "you think these two jobs are bad! iv'e just shown you the best two jobs iv'e done all year!"

 

[Swicade]

ask him where my pozidrive screwdriver has gone.....buggered if i can find it.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Do I need the shell out £100s on a torque driver?

 

[cbw]

YES!!! We MUST follow MIs, they state the relevent torque for the C.U. screws.....

- - - Updated - - -

Anyone know what the torque requirement is for DNO meters and fuses?????

 

[Silly Sausage]

YES!!! We MUST follow MIs, they state the relevent torque for the C.U. screws.....

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Anyone know what the torque requirement is for DNO meters and fuses?????

Would a meter fitter know what 'torque' means?

 

[Kiers1970]

Meter fitters probably listen to Torque Sport, it's for the uneducated types....

 

[jimmymac]

My favourite question is........"excuse me, correct me if i'm wrong but didn't you invent Tip-ex?"

 

[sedgy34]

Would a meter fitter know what 'torque' means?

Now that is a good question if they don't why do we have to know it

 

[jumpin jax]

Why arent BS standards offered online free instead of being ripped off?

 

[sedgy34]

Why does your company try and make your own rules and regulations up

 

[Plonker 3]

Why should i continue my membership with one of the schemes, when in comparison the number of jobs done that are not notified compared to the ones that get prosecuted proves you will not be punished in any way?

 

[Silly Sausage]

Now that is a good question if they don't why do we have to know it

Because you're a professional!

 

[Taylortwocities]

Why did I have to go to night school for three years to get my qualifications when you now let people onto the competent persons register after only 5 days?

 

[Kiers1970]

why do you CLEARLY register less than competent persons. Cashola by any chance?

 

[Silly Sausage]

Why should I sign up with NICEIC when the others seem infinitley better than you?

 

[Kiers1970]

Do you feel obligated to deem applicants successful as you have already taken their money? Just asking...

 

[Plonker 3]

Do you feel obligated to deem applicants successful as you have already taken their money? Just asking...

may be better phrased as, what do I have to do too fail?

 

[Adam W]

How many hectares are there in Somerset?

 

[Adam W]

What do you think about the pedestrianisation of Norwich city centre?

 

[gigawatt]

I would like an honest answer to the DNO fuse issue?

Which scam is it?

 

[SirKit Breaker]

OOH dear ladies!

There is no point having a dig at the Assessor. He has no control over B&Q selling things, he isnt a genius, he doesnt know all the answers, british standard have got nothing to do with him, scheme provider fees are not set by or charged by him, he will not get anywhere near £400 for his halfday visit. He is not there to pass or fail you, he wants to help and advise, he is knowledgeable about the subject he is assessing, you should also be knowledgeable about it too, or you wouldnt put yourself up for assessment.

An Assessor's job is to,

Assess that you are competent in the subject field. In this case he is assessing your ability to be able to work to a set standard as laid down by BS7671, and its implications with the building regulations. He is carrying out an Assessment of you, against a set criteria, which is the same criteria for all who are being assessed for the same purpose. The assessment should be fair, and all candidates should be assessed to the same requirements. If you are assessed as meeting the criteria, then you will be told so, and you will also be told if you do not meet the required standard.

The scheme provider assessors all hold the Qualification of Assessing competence in the workplace, and this is limited to assessing in their subject field.
You need to remember that the Assessor is an Electrical Engineer of some sort, and will have extensive subject knowledge, just like you. He wont know it all, and neither do you, but he wants to see that you can find out what you need to know.

I hold this qualification, but dont assess Part P Electricians, i deal with apprentices, but the practice and principles are exactly the same.

Cheers..........Howard

 

[jumpin jax]

The assessor is though the link between the contractor and the governing body and asking him questions will hopefully get back to HQ. My point about BS standards are that i believe that Gas Safe, a cps, offer free access to relevant BS to its members.

 

[Engineer54]

he is knowledgeable about the subject he is assessing, you should also be knowledgeable about it too, or you wouldnt put yourself up for assessment.

Yeah right, I suppose that's how these 17day/Electrical Trainee can sail through these so-called competency assessments set out by these providers!! All these assessments are a 400+ (minimum) quid farce!!

 

[Octopus]

I'd like to know how many people get a "fail" or worse??

 

[Silly Sausage]

You need to remember that the Assessor is an Electrical Engineer of some sort, and will have extensive subject knowledge. He wont know it all......

Obviously hasn't met E54!

:joker:

 

[thekingiam]

1 why do i have to be asessed yearly, surely unless i get amnesia i am still going to know how to do my job for many years?
2 is it so you can have a regular income?

 

[Engineer54]

I'd like to know how many people get a "fail" or worse??

Has anyone here, really known of Anyone failing a providers assessment?? I doubt it, ...Boy would you need to be BAD to fail!! lol!!!!

 

[Engineer54]

Obviously hasn't met E54!

:joker:

Are you taking the part Pee??

 

[Des 56]

The best question to ask is "How many sugars in your tea,he will reply something along the lines of "Do you have coffee"?

The rest of questions are rumoured to be electrically based,but the difficulty of the questions deteriorate from the initial coffee one

 

[Silly Sausage]

Are you taking the part Pee??

Only gently, you're not an 'Appreciated Member' for nothing.
Just thought of a nightmare scenario, being job interviewed by you, I'd be in shreds!

 

[Engineer54]

Only gently, you're not an 'Appreciated Member' for nothing.
Just thought of a nightmare scenario, being job interviewed by you, I'd be in shreds!

On the contrary, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised!! ...Especially if the interview was on my pay check day!! lol!!

 

[Top Cat]

Only gently, you're not an 'Appreciated Member' for nothing.
Just thought of a nightmare scenario, being job interviewed by you, I'd be in shreds!

E54 is just like me, a big ----- cat!

 

[MarkieSparkie]

E54 is just like me, a big ----- cat!

I think actually E54 is the Tiger in the Tiger Economy!:joker: