SWITCHED DOUBLE SOCKET HELP?! - MUCH APPRECIATED

[Callum Thomas]

Tbh callum, its a better job than some who i know would do. I’ve some drill a hole through worktop and plug the lights into a socket and use that as there switching

Not quite what i'm trying to accomplish though is it. I know this is a possibility which can be done. Just trying to work out the best way to go about it. If you have any logical idea on how would be best to accomplish what i'm trying to do then please step in with your advice. As currently i'm hearing a lot of 'dont do its' but no alternatives being offered.

 

[Amp David]

You just pull a fuse for each circuit so yes they can.

Posting that pic callum has just opened you up to a load of grief now though pal

 

[buzzlightyear]

get some with a wood pole handy !

 

[PEG]

Callum,you cannot ask for advice,and then qualify what you would not want to hear,as irrelevant.

That is worse than risky. It is bad manners.

 

[Amp David]

Have you fused this down to 3 or 5A? Also what type of cable have you used, and how have you installed it?

Why the worry for fusing down?

Hes used 2.5 as as spur, no ones going to be using this new socket for anything as it must be hidden under the units

 

[charlie76]

I wouldn’t recommend this at all. You are mixing 2 circuits I.e. your lighting circuit and your socket circuit in 1 switch. It is unlikely but not impossible where you could have a fault whereby your lighting circuit ends up protected by a 32A MCB which would not protect a 1.5mm cable. It is just bad practice and as someone else said could be a mine field for someone else fault finding in the future. There will be much better ways of doing this.

 

[Callum Thomas]

I wouldn’t recommend this at all. You are mixing 2 circuits I.e. your lighting circuit and your socket circuit in 1 switch. It is unlikely but not impossible where you could have a fault whereby your lighting circuit ends up protected by a 32A MCB which would not protect a 1.5mm cable. It is just bad practice and as someone else said could be a mine field for someone else fault finding in the future. There will be much better ways of doing this.

Completely understand what your saying, however, what could be an alternative to accomplish this?

 

[buzzlightyear]

I wouldn’t recommend this at all. You are mixing 2 circuits I.e. your lighting circuit and your socket circuit in 1 switch. It is unlikely but not impossible where you could have a fault whereby your lighting circuit ends up protected by a 32A MCB which would not protect a 1.5mm cable. It is just bad practice and as someone else said could be a mine field for someone else fault finding in the future. There will be much better ways of doing

the op is not listening.

 

[Callum Thomas]

no ones going to be using this new socket for anything as it must be hidden under the units

Correct

 

[Grant webber]

Completely understand what your saying, however, what could be an alternative to accomplish this?

Simple hire the services of a professional

 

[ipf]

I do not understand your response, the socket is wired correctly from a 30 Amp ring main, only difference is the live is going to a switch so that the live can be switched on and off. The socket would work fine if the live was wired directly to the 'L' port rather than the switch. SO what is the issue?

You're drawing shows no sign of any ring circuit cables. Is it spurred? .... it's not a field you should be 'educating yourself' in. Various regulations apply.

 

[PEG]

I wouldn’t recommend this at all. You are mixing 2 circuits I.e. your lighting circuit and your socket circuit in 1 switch. It is unlikely but not impossible where you could have a fault whereby your lighting circuit ends up protected by a 32A MCB which would not protect a 1.5mm cable. It is just bad practice and as someone else said could be a mine field for someone else fault finding in the future. There will be much better ways of doing this.

...Or a straightened out paper-clip? You would need to pull & view,to know...

 

[streamer]

@Callum Thomas
My suspicion is that you have asked an electrician to do this job and they have told you that to alter the wiring in your kitchen would require changing the old fuse box. Therefore you are trying to do it yourself. Am I correct? There are good reasons why most electricians wouldn't do the job without bringing it up to current standards.

 

[Callum Thomas]

Is it spurred? ....

Yes

 

[Callum Thomas]

@Callum Thomas
My suspicion is that you have asked an electrician to do this job and they have told you that to alter the wiring in your kitchen would require changing the old fuse box. Therefore you are trying to do it yourself. Am I correct? There are good reasons why most electricians wouldn't do the job without bringing it up to current standards.

No, 2 electricians have looked at this job, confirmed it to be possible and haven't even asked to look at the consumer unit. Can't see why the old style fuse box would prevent this from being done, other than the fact it doesn't meet current standards.

 

[ipf]

I wouldn’t recommend this at all. You are mixing 2 circuits I.e. your lighting circuit and your socket circuit in 1 switch. It is unlikely but not impossible where you could have a fault whereby your lighting circuit ends up protected by a 32A MCB which would not protect a 1.5mm cable.
.....30 amp 3036

 

[charlie76]

No, 2 electricians have looked at this job, confirmed it to be possible and haven't even asked to look at the consumer unit. Can't see why the old style fuse box would prevent this from being done, other than the fact it doesn't meet current standards.

What 2 electricians have confirmed it to be possible in the way you showed in your schematic?

 

[PEG]

Honestly? two sparks viewed this job,and did not even look at the CU?

 

[Spoon]

Hi OP. You are breaking a few regs. No I'm not going to explain them.
Yes, get an electrician in. What you are planning is incorrect.
Yes, you won't like my reply, but I'm an engineer and I'm just direct in my nature. I can't be a polite as others on here.. I will tell you as it is, without mollycoddling you.

 

[ipf]

No, 2 electricians have looked at this job, confirmed it to be possible and haven't even asked to look at the consumer unit. Can't see why the old style fuse box would prevent this from being done, other than the fact it doesn't meet current standards.[/QUOTE]
That says it all!!![/QUOTE]