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I confess to a ruse which may not be entirely ethical under these circumstances but which avoids resentment for a callout charge just to press a button.

In those scenarios to save face for the customer, I would 'find' a poor contact. I will exercise the offending control 100 times while they are watching, so that the next time it happens, they remember what I did and it makes them check the control before calling me.
 
I confess to a ruse which may not be entirely ethical under these circumstances but which avoids resentment for a callout charge just to press a button.
This is similar to when I had a repair workshop in the basement of a shop. You never take a repair back upstairs too quickly.
Also similar to when guessing time frames for a horrendous job, guess, and then double it. If you originally reckoned 2 hours, tell them four, and it takes 3 hours you are a hero. Tell them 2 and they will whinge all night!
 
Probably 20 odd years ago working in a factory which made plastic bags, was actually a fascinating process anyway one of their engineering managers who was being very difficult referred to me with the "c" word. I gave it a few minutes before I said, I may act the "c" sometimes but you will always be a "c". I was much younger and wouldn't dream of doing it now but it made me feel good.
Very Churchill!
"Sir you are drunk!"
"And you madam are ugly, but in the morning I shall be sober"
 
Probably 20 odd years ago working in a factory which made plastic bags, was actually a fascinating process anyway one of their engineering managers who was being very difficult referred to me with the "c" word. I gave it a few minutes before I said, I may act the "c" sometimes but you will always be a "c". I was much younger and wouldn't dream of doing it now but it made me feel good.
That reminds me of the famous Churchill quote...
Lady Aster: Winston, your are drunk !
Churchill: Madam, you are ugly, but I shall be sober in the morning...
 
Probably 20 odd years ago working in a factory which made plastic bags, was actually a fascinating process anyway one of their engineering managers who was being very difficult referred to me with the "c" word. I gave it a few minutes before I said, I may act the "c" sometimes but you will always be a "c". I was much younger and wouldn't dream of doing it now but it made me feel good.
Form the film The Professionals.

J.W. Grant : You bas****

Rico : Yes, Sir. In my case an accident of birth. But you, Sir, you're a self-made man.
 
In all honesty I think it is perfectly reasonable for a client to state 'it was fine until you messed with it' when the oven keeps tripping the new RCD where it worked perfectly well before. Presumably you did not explain to your client exactly what you were installing and how RCD's are much more sensitive to faults than SE fuses.
It is always good practice to explain to the client that modern circuit protection provides a much higher degree of shock and fire protection but at the same time can react to minor faults that the previous arrangement didn't.
Sometimes you need to put yourself in your clients position, Black list indeed. Pretty poor customer service IMO.
I explained to the customer perfectly well, prior to the upgrade and again in detail on my return visit. I also did not charge for the call out and the 2 replacement lights switches and wall light I did as a good will gesture during the initial job of swapping out the CU.
He was clearly not buying what I was explaining to him - that the fault was most likely already present and that the new RCD had picked this up. If he had been polite to me rather than ranting, and accepted my explanation regarding the oven fault then I would have been happy to replace the faulty element (probably at no cost) since it is was a straight forward job.

So, sorry no I don't agree with you and take offense on your comment about "poor customer service". I have been in the trade for over 30 years and the only genuine complaints I have received in all that time have been for poor or faulty equipment failures, which I have either replaced, if I had supplied them, or been happy on most occasions to replace, at no cost, for decent customers who have accepted that the accessory/equipment they have supplied is faulty. I have and still do, go over and above for good customers and as a result have a very long cliental list of repeat customers and recommendations.

All the other complaints (like the 2 examples in my post) were people who either were not willing to understand/accept the cause/situation or were chancing a compensation claim of some sorts. we have all been victim of this I'm sure.
 

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