Kitchen electrical work

[AL3XREID]

I am looking for pro advice on kitchen electrical installation.

Currently in the process of old kitchen being replaced, cancelled registered electrician that I had initially booked up after joiner handling the the job said he could get an electrician in sooner and get it signed off. Which I initially thought was perfect

but now having second thoughts, from what I have been told from other fully trained electricians with regards to work being carried out, regulations etc.

The job at hand was to fit as follows -



Fit small 2 way fuse box for kitchen sockets and cooker. ( Decided to go with this to keep costs down, as main consumer unit would need to replaced due to age.)
Alter cooker point so that it is sunk in wall and there is a connection point for the double oven.
Add sparker socket for hob Add tumble dryer switched fused spur and socket.
Add dishwasher fused spur and socket Testing and Certification.

I have added a picture of current work

 

[richy3333]

Not really sure what you’re asking. Are you saying the joiner is doing the wiring or someone he has gotten in?

You may need a building warrant for the work, depending on the type of property and where stuff is going. If you do you’ll need someone registered with NICEIC or Select.

Under counter appliances require above counter isolation in Scotland. You’ll need a heat alarm and possibly a CO detector in the kitchen.

 

[AL3XREID]

The joiner has brought in an electrician to do the work. Also know the chap has to be fully qualified and registered to do the work, which I have been assured by joiner is the case.I wont take the risk of when it comes to electrical work.

The work is been carried out in my own personal home.


This is work he is due to carry out -

Small 2 way fuse box for kitchen sockets, which has to be fitted for kitchen, as main consumer board is older and not up to todays standards for the work I need done.

Alter cooker point so that it is sunk in wall and there is a connection point for the double oven.

Sparker socket for hob.

Tumble dryer switched fused spur and socket.

Dishwasher fused spur and socket Testing and Certification.

Which are to be isolated above counters as I am in Scotland.

Also will this work have to be signed off under Part P due to 2 way fuse box being installed or just signed off as minor electrical work.

Thanks

 

[Dustydazzler]

All I can see is 2 boxes chopped in and a bit of 2.5 in kopex ...Which is pretty normal at first fix stage

hard to judge the installation on such a small amount of work

 

[AL3XREID]

All I can see is 2 boxes chopped in and a bit of 2.5 in kopex ...Which is pretty normal at first fix stage

hard to judge the installation on such a small amount of work

Thats as much has been done up up to this point of install, so far so good then..

The job sheet for the work i listed, would that have to be Part P signed off or would it be signed off as Minor electrical work?

Thanks

 

[Dustydazzler]

If you are in England only new circ require part p notifiable

howfver you should get a certificate for all the work once it’s complete

 

[AL3XREID]

I'm in Scotland so will have to check legislation up here. Can't see it being much different.

Also from what you are saying, the two way fusebox thats due to be fitted for the electrics in the kitchen, that would also come under small electrical work?

Thanks

 

[richy3333]

Part P doesn't exist in Scotland. We have our own standards and I tried to assist with that in my earlier post re a building warrant.

You'll need a full EIC. If you know the name of the electrical company you can check they are registered by searching SELECT or NICEIC website

 

[AL3XREID]

I won't need a building warrant as I am not making alterations to the building which is what is stated from my local council. But will need an EIC, but reading between the lines from the conversation I had with my my joiner, the electrician is doing the work basicly as a "homer". Which has got me concerned, as how can he legally sign off the work?

Cheers

 

[telectrix]

I'm in Scotland so will have to check legislation up here. Can't see it being much different.

Also from what you are saying, the two way fusebox thats due to be fitted for the electrics in the kitchen, that would also come under small electrical work?

Thanks

NO. it's a new distribution circuit and final circuits. not Minor Works.

 

[AL3XREID]

NO. it's a new distribution circuit and final circuits. not Minor Works.

Will need an EIC as I am in Scotland. Cheers

 

[stevethesparks]

I don't know if its the angle of the photo, but those two newly installed boxes look on the wonk?

 

[DPG]

I don't know if its the angle of the photo, but those two newly installed boxes look on the wonk?

Probably enough movement in the lugs to compensate.

 

[telectrix]

I don't know if its the angle of the photo, but those two newly installed boxes look on the wonk?

in that situation i always use a 2+1 back box.

 

[nicebutdim]

in that situation i always use a 2+1 back box.

Potential issue with decorative accessories?

Between our kitchen and utility room there are three instances where a switched fcu sits beside a double socket. Only one uses a 2+1 box and those other two are spaced differently, but thankfully are on different walls. I'm inclined to agree that dual boxes or individual boxes fixed with a bush would be preferable and also easier to level.

 

[telectrix]

Potential issue with decorative accessories?

could be. then out comes the angle grinder.

 

[nicebutdim]

could be. then out comes the angle grinder.

I'd updated that post with an option that doesn't require the use of a grinder

 

[AL3XREID]

I don't know if its the angle of the photo, but those two newly installed boxes look on the wonk?

Update on works ongoing. Supposedly no need to fit two way fusebox, kitchen electrical appliances were safe enough to run off existing consumer board.

Not really happy with loose switch and socket that was left behind tumble as per picture. Also unsure about socket which has been attached to flooring under the new double oven.

Looking for advice please.

 

[DPG]

That loose socket on the corner is atrocious. Should be fixed to wall and the cable clipped to support it.

 

[AL3XREID]

That loose socket on the corner is atrocious. Should be fixed to wall and the cable clipped to support it.

I genuinely didn't know it was like that until I pulled out the tumble dryer. I have been in touch with the joiner who was dealing with the electrician who done the work, as I'm extremely annoyed about this.

Is the socket that has been attached to the floor ok, or should I be concerned about this also?

Thanks