Residential Caravan homes- minimum supply

[Hobsoni]

i was hoping someone would be able to give me some clarification on minimum ampage supplies for residential caravan homes both past and present.

I believe that if a 'new' home is built then a 63amp supply is required, however not too sure with previous regulations. This is where i come unstuck, an old home with 30 amp supply has a fault on the cable supplying the home. The cable needs replacing, so now that i am installing a new cable does it have to be upgraded to carry 63amps because its classed as a new installation???

Any thoughts or opinions welcome, thanks

 

[Adam W]

Most caravans come with a 16A plug on them.
AFAIK you could have whatever supply you like provided it has been designed properly.

 

[Electro-tech]

As it is a private supply then size cable according to load required ,Depending on what you have available at main switch room.This is all year round accommodation.?? Is it TT ???

 

[Hobsoni]

Its residential (all year round) there is a three phase supply brought in by manweb. Then armoured cable ran to each property complete with cpc etc. Not a TT installation. there basically like little houses, showers, kitchens the works. however our local council suggest that a new installation needs to be 63amps, but would you consider the proposed work that i mentioned in the above as a requirement for 63amps??

 

[mayfair]

What a sad and outdated atitude , Residental caravans/ mobile homes are normally better equiped than some of these new starter homes. totally up to spec as far as energy saving etc. Think you need to take a look around.

Most caravans come with a 16A plug on them.
AFAIK you could have whatever supply you like provided it has been designed properly.

 

[Hobsoni]

LMAO @ Mayfair

 

[telectrix]

as mayfair says. all mod cons in statics now. i would aim for a 63 supply.

 

[Adam W]

Depends what you're going to be doing in there - gas hobs and gas boilers don't tend to use much electricity even in the winter, although apparently on campsites people like to race electric kettles.
Does the van have a panel plug on the side? If so what size cable is it between that and the cu?

 

[Hobsoni]

never mind his attitude hows about shining some light on it, i would be grateful. Also you are correct about how efficient they are, but i think its a lifestyle thing.............i could say i would be broadcasting to the world i lived in a caravan! but thats another story

 

[telectrix]

novus, it's a static. not plugged in. you're thinking of tourers, where they have a 16A plug-in.

 

[Hobsoni]

Your all going down the same road, It had a 30 amp supply that was sufficient. Cable has to be renewed, so is it classed has coming under new installtion?? I would say YES.........but does this mean an upgrade is required, according to regulation not because the owner might want a double oven, I should perhaps point out that the owner of the home is not paying for the work to be carried out, but the owner of the caravan site. Hence the debate of what is needed/required to conform with regulation.

 

[Adam W]

What a sad and outdated atitude , Residental caravans/ mobile homes are normally better equiped than some of these new starter homes. totally up to spec as far as energy saving etc. Think you need to take a look around.

Well I suppose it depends on the size. The ones I used to build only had 2/3 bedrooms and ran off a 16A plug; 2 lighting circuits, 2 power circuits, gas boiler, gas hob. The higher end of the range came with wine coolers, ipod docking stations etc but even they don't consume that much power. Low energy lighting seemed to be an optional extra - they were built to a budget so most were fitted with 50W halogen lamps.

 

[mayfair]

Park Homes | Park Homes for Sale | Static Caravans for Sale m8 check this baby out the model IKON on the home page 50 ft x 20 ft looks a bit canny lol

Well I suppose it depends on the size. The ones I used to build only had 2/3 bedrooms and ran off a 16A plug; 2 lighting circuits, 2 power circuits, gas boiler, gas hob. The higher end of the range came with wine coolers, ipod docking stations etc but even they don't consume that much power. Low energy lighting seemed to be an optional extra - they were built to a budget so most were fitted with 50W halogen lamps.

 

[Adam W]

OK I'm totally confused now. I used to build these:


Which were fed from a 16A panel plug.
Sorry if that's "sad and outdated" but to my knowledge there's only one caravan factory around here now.

 

[Adam W]

Park Homes | Park Homes for Sale | Static Caravans for Sale m8 check this baby out the model IKON on the home page 50 ft x 20 ft looks a bit canny lol

Is it really a 'caravan' though?

 

[mayfair]

Did'nt even dare look at the price on the IKON m8 ............must be a pretty penny

OK I'm totally confused now. I used to build these:

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Which were fed from a 16A panel plug.
Sorry if that's "sad and outdated" but to my knowledge there's only one caravan factory around here now.

 

[Adam W]

Did'nt even dare look at the price on the IKON m8 ............must be a pretty penny

Apparently the money is made from renting the pitch - you can buy something like an 'inspiration' (the one in my picture) to put in your back garden for around £40k. To buy one on a holiday park costs more like £120k which includes the rent for 3 years, which seems a bit steep to me.

 

[Knobhead]

Just banish all caravan/trailer parks. They are an eyesore!
Sorry but I detest them. I turned down a free holiday on the east coast because of them.

 

[Electro-tech]

As local council say it should be 63A, then if building control are involved or planning then ask with what reference there advice is based on. Electricity Suppliers are always referring to BS 7671 and require a Cert, so as long at it is done to the Regs then ok! Too much involvement with local authority could turn up other issues as I found when browsing for info on this topic.Like :From 1 October 2008 landlords are required to provide an Energy Performance Certificate when they rent out a home. An Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) gives information on the energy efficiency of a
property you want to let. New to Me !