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Good question. I need to go and reread their terms and conditions. The inspector on my last year's assessment visit mumbled something about it but said it's not yet a requirement, but that I should probably start keeping records just in case.Is the NICEIC an accredited body that has an approved qualification for its members and therefore require them to submit their CPD to retain membership?
Have you ever registered yourself on Home | Electrotechnical Certification Scheme - https://www.ecscard.org.uk/ like you I had a JIB card 40 years ago, when I registered on the site I found they already knew quite a lot about me from my old JIB cardI was JIB graded about forty years ago. My boss got the card for me. I thought nothing of it and put it somewhere never to be seen again. Just did not realise the importance of it. Carried on wiring house shops offices and some factory work in London, Scotland and so on until the Part P thing which I again resisted for around fifteen years then finally caved in and joined Stroma. Went over to NAPIT last year and there was a snag with my qualifications I took a few years ago. 2397 QS course. However the guy/organisation sent me a level 3 cert and I did do a portfolio with it finally. Anyway after a bit of a kerfuffle they decided I could join anyway as I was with an existing scheme and accepted my TPC, EICR and commercial and domestic level from STROMA and afforded me the same competencies as I had already enjoyed. Strangely they did not want to see my commercial work as they were already satisfied with it. They insisted on visiting a crumby little domestic ring circuit I had done. All in all I would say the bar has been raised which is not a bad thing. Of course this only catches the conscientious among us and does nothing to address cowboys and ne'er do wells plying their con games on the gullible which is somewhat infuriating.
When so many training standards have been lowered what is the point of CPD other than to play catch upIf waffle is your take on CPD then what hope is there for Electricians being taken seriously as professionals in the future, as a Mentor you should be embracing the requirements of the Institutes and Associations and guiding the young in the correct direction, not bucking their requirements, you can't change them so embrace them.
Shame this is not on the Arms as it is sending the wrong message to those outside.
Exactly my earlier point that a professional body may assess being on this site and interacting with other electricians could contribute towards any CPD requirement needed to remain a member of said body.Being on this forum and discussing changes in regulations and basically all aspects of electrics is much more useful and rewarding than any CPD I have done.
More to do with the Healthcare trust rather than your professional body, Royal College of Nursing perhaps? The trust has to show how well they are abiding by the Government guide lines to continue getting their funding, it is a sad fact that the system is open to such abuse, there are failings in all systems of training and development but I think the NHST is an extreme example as I am sure there are others, but the real value of CPD as a vehicle to improve standards within any industry that has a large workforce that work autonomously can not be overlooked.One of the reasons I changed career from a nurse to being an electrician, or rather a domestic installer, was due to all the CPD that came with being a nurse. I can absolutely say 95% of it was such irrelevant nonsense. The healthcare trust HAD to be seen to be offering it though as they use it in their statistics to show how well they train their staff.
I do some ambulance work and yeah some of the mandatory learning is crap, can't begin to imagine how much worse it can be for an HCP.One of the reasons I changed career from a nurse to being an electrician, or rather a domestic installer, was due to all the CPD that came with being a nurse. I can absolutely say 95% of it was such irrelevant nonsense. The healthcare trust HAD to be seen to be offering it though as they use it in their statistics to show how well they train their staff. It was mandatory, we had to do it all, we had files upon files of different mandatory learning we had to complete. So, so, so many different bits of so called CPD and the vast majority was just absolute rubbish, with little or no bearing on the job. It was so demoralising to have to complete it when I just wanted to look after my patients.
Think about how silly we think completing the 18Ed is, perhaps every 3-4 years. We had to complete similar things perhaps every 2 weeks on average, and I am not exaggerating.
I think CPD could be such a good thing if it didn't get lost in all the bureaucracy and politics.
Being on this forum and discussing changes in regulations and basically all aspects of electrics is much more useful and rewarding than any CPD I have done.
I worked as an electrical inspector for the local Council for 24 years so I'm very familiar with this, it always seemed to me that some staff became so focussed on CPD and doing as many irrelevant courses as possible that they totally lost track of actually doing the jobs that they were paid to do.
Scam membership takes more than enough of my time and money already without another layer of waffle on t
I wouldn't feel right naming the Trust Mike. No, it wasn't the Royal College of Nursing (RCN). The RCN is a nursing union that nurses can choose to join or not, they were very good.More to do with the Healthcare trust rather than your professional body, Royal College of Nursing perhaps? The trust has to show how well they are abiding by the Government guide lines to continue getting their funding, it is a sad fact that the system is open to such abuse, there are failings in all systems of training and development but I think the NHST is an extreme example as I am sure there are others, but the real value of CPD as a vehicle to improve standards within any industry that has a large workforce that work autonomously can not be overlooked.
Mike, if there's a risk of Electricians not being taken seriously as professionals in the future it'll be because of over pricing, shoddy workmanship and the 'that'll do' attitude ,this in turn creates distrust and much bodged and unsafe DIY electrical work which is a real concern to me.If waffle is your take on CPD then what hope is there for Electricians being taken seriously as professionals in the future, as a Mentor you should be embracing the requirements of the Institutes and Associations and guiding the young in the correct direction, not bucking their requirements, you can't change them so embrace them.
Shame this is not on the Arms as it is sending the wrong message to those outside.
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