ATL/Trade qualified

[Steve Bucksey]

Hi all. Has anyone here attended any courses run by ATL/Trade qualified recently?
Thanks in advance, Steve

 

[Rockingit]

I thought ATL had gone bust?

 

[Farmelectrics]

did you not mean jtl

 

[loop3]

Go cg, they're recognised all over. Take anything else and in time you will experience difficulties.

 

[TQisaripoff]

Hi all. Has anyone here attended any courses run by ATL/Trade qualified recently?
Thanks in advance, Steve

Yes, I have, and I got thrown off of it because Trade Qualified hadn't paid their debts. Now I cannot get hold of anyone, they have moved offices and their telephone number is dead. I am £5000 down and in the process of getting legal advice. An absolute rip off, and I would advise anyone to not go anywhere near.

 

[TQisaripoff]

Is JTI the new name for Trade Qualified?

 

[wini1979]

Mate, me and a friend have been on the course for 2 years, received an email from TQ saying ATL had gone into administration and the standards not good enough for TQ. They will contact us in time with more info...Been waiting weeks, my assignments not returned and rang operator and number for inquiries disconnected...Alarm bells are ringing...Anyone got any more info

 

[TQisaripoff]

Mate, me and a friend have been on the course for 2 years, received an email from TQ saying ATL had gone into administration and the standards not good enough for TQ. They will contact us in time with more info...Been waiting weeks, my assignments not returned and rang operator and number for inquiries disconnected...Alarm bells are ringing...Anyone got any more info

Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath. I was frogmarched off of a course with them in December, and now I have been advised that they have moved offices with no forwarding address. I have looked up that the director of TQ also owns Future Training College Ltd, if that helps. I have contacted him through them, seeing as TQ are impossible to get in contact with. Hope that helps you?

 

[wini1979]

Yeah mate it does,thing is I was gonna b on course in Dec also, can't believe they still took our money & they have done one...will look into that company ...is the director called Brian?

 

[wini1979]

Have you logged it with trading standards? We have and getting the ball rolling to square this company's mess...

 

[sima24]

If you manage to get your money back stick to a local college.

 

[nodgetron]

hi guys regarding the trade qualified - im in the same boat trying to get my 5k back and was also frog marched from the building in december. the only person i can get hold of is the sales man that called before i registered and paid my money to...

 

[Arclightning]

I have also been studying with Trade Qualified for the last 11 months, spoke to someone there in December right after they sent out that email about ATL going into administration. The chap I spoke to told me that the training for weeks 3 and 4 which is what I am due to do next would begin again in February and that he would put my name down to do it (at their new Stoke centre) and that they would contact me in the new year to confirm the dates etc.

Well unsurprisingly they have not contacted me, so after giving them a fair chance I started trying to contact they at the start of this week, I can't get through on any number, just an engaged tone all the time. So I have emailed them, no response so far. To say the least I am concerned, according to Companies House they are still active, and assuming the data is upto date they have not filed for bankruptcy yet.

Like others here, I paid them 5k upfront and I have had less than half of what I paid for so far, I haven't even managed to get the damn tool kit out of them yet, after messing about with it for the first 2 weeks they promised me I would get it on the 3rd, and before Christmas they chap I spoke to assured me I would get it when I attend Stoke. Right now I'm thinking there isn't going to be a week 3.

I'm not really sure quite what to do just now. I am worried though.

Oh incidentally, I decided to check out the post code for the Stoke centre, they don't give an exact address though, well according to Google Maps it's a boat company on a small Marina, there are about 4 businesses there and accepting for the fact that Google maps street and satellite views are a few years old I am still deeply suspicious, as Google searches still return the boat company as being at that post code, none of the buildings look nearly big enough for a trade training centre to me.

If these guys are going to try and do a runner with our money, we need to get onto this together I think, somehow.

 

[TQisaripoff]

Yeah, I was messed about a few times when trying to arrange my second week. When I got there, they were doing something totally different to what I was told we would be doing, and what I had revised for. I didn't get a tool kit in my first week either. The whole thing was a shambles. Companies house still holds active details for them, but I have been told that they have moved address. Anyone that I spoke to last month assured me I would get a phone call to deal with my request for a refund, but of course, nothing. Unlike you, though, I was not promised that my training would be resumed. I was not given any explanation whatsoever.

 

[Arclightning]

At this point I would prefer my money back really, I do not trust them at all.

I have contacted another chap I attended my first 2 weeks with, he has been messed about by them a lot too, I've sent him a message linking this thread, I was discussing the difficulty I was having getting in touch with TQL with him just a few days ago and he told me how they had messed him around, sent him home from a course in December and cost him about 400 quid in fuel and accommodation costs, it is disgusting that they can treat their customers like this.

I had a closer look at them online, their last recorded liabilities were very nearly as high as their assets, although they had a lot of money in the bank that can change from day to day. If they are going to fold, their liabilities to asset ratio is not very favourable from the point of view of us been able to get our money back from the liquidators.

 

[nodgetron]

im not that sure they are going in to liquidation they still have the gas training side of things and they must have a pretty healthy cash flow as most people iv spoken too pay monthly and they must have a few hundred on their books??
They are obviously try to pull a fast one though, ive sent numerous emails and letters - the first one demanding a refund was sent in december and i had acknowledgment it was received but nothing since.

likewise ive been trying to call, last week i got through and was informed they were changing address and the guy i spoke to couldnt give me the new one. This week i tried to call and just get the engaged tone and cut off!!

Ive tried calling ERR who are now running the training center that used to be ATL to see if they had any idea of a conntact address etc though he was helpful and called me back with some numbers - they didnt ring either?

Yes i think the new director is Vinnay something or other and from my internet searches i can see he is a director of some other similar company/s

 

[wini1979]

Lets get a Facebook page going and bring this to light...I am enrolled on the plumbing & part p course...take it most of you guys are sparkie course...goes to show lots of other people being messed about

 

[nodgetron]

seems that way mate

 

[moospark]

Wise up guys, you are so getting shafted. Your not getting the money back, At least realize this.

 

[Arclightning]

Wise up guys, you are so getting shafted. Your not getting the money back, At least realize this.

While you 'may' be right, I'm not going to just give up like that, not without a fight! ...no way in hell am I letting them just walk off with thousands of pounds of my money like that, not a chance. If we all just gave up and rolled over like that I dread to think what the world would be like.

 

[wini1979]

Amen to that...these weasels need flattening.....money back or payback...what ever...either of them will happen

 

[TQisaripoff]

Moospark, you seem very sure of that. Perhaps you work for TQL!

 

[wini1979]

Facebook page done! look for Bringtradequalified2justice and please post / like and it will be top of searches on google, lets get the ball rolling

 

[wini1979]

@TQisaripoff Cheers mate this has all stemmed from your post...will like it...I'm a Facebook clutz but my missus runs a business on there so will get it networked...

 

[Johnuk]

shame this has happin but thats what u get when you do a Electrical Trainee courses, these courses are very miss leading and some of you guys will hit a brick wall

 

[moospark]

While you 'may' be right, I'm not going to just give up like that, not without a fight! ...no way in hell am I letting them just walk off with thousands of pounds of my money like that, not a chance. If we all just gave up and rolled over like that I dread to think what the world would be like.

Don't get me wrong, not for a moment do I suggest you roll over, but you are dealing with weasels.

 

[wini1979]

Please anyone seen off by these guys, like the facebook page & comment Bringtradequalified2justice,once I ave enough likes google search takes people there, means we can see the full extent of this company's mess

 

[moospark]

Moospark, you seem very sure of that. Perhaps you work for TQL!

No mate, just old. While I could not not advise direct action, I would truly be spitting feathers if I were you.

 

[Rockingit]

If any of you paid for course fees via plastic then you'll (probably) be covered under your credit card, depends on the exact circumstances and time frame.

I used to know a couple of guys who taught for ATL, I'll do some asking around.

 

[Arclightning]

That's a good point Rockingit, however in my case it was over a year ago they took the money so I doubt that will help me much.

shame this has happin but thats what u get when you do a Electrical Trainee courses, these courses are very miss leading and some of you guys will hit a brick wall

So I have since come to realise, however, there isn't a lot of choice if you want to be an electrician and you are over 25, an apprenticeship isn't really open to you so far as I could tell when I first looked into this at the end of 2011, that and I want to do it quicker than 4 years, it really doesn't take 4 years to learn this stuff, it does however take much more than 4 weeks of course.

Also when I first got into all this I didn't know about these forums or really how to go about becoming an electrician, I suppose in hindsight using the money for something like a C&G 2330 (at the time) or 2357 from a college now would be better, following that up with 17th Edition etc. Perhaps a discussion for another time and place really, since thread isn't really about the pros and cons of short courses like this. TQL had been trading 'legitimately' since 2006 and when I signed up with them I did do some research and didn't find anything bad or untoward, they seemed quite legitimate to me.

 

[bigbaddave]

Did anyone pay for the course on a credit card ?

 

[Arclightning]

Yes, I believe it was January 2012. Although it didn't come off my card it was my fathers so he will have the exact record. I need to talk to him about what seems to be going on here. I should be able to get hold of him Monday.

 

[bigbaddave]

Speak to your credit card company then as goods not received, They have a process for dealing with stuff like this. However if you have received part of the goods (Courses) I dont know where you stand but speak to them mate..

 

[Arclightning]

Yea, I have received part of the goods.

I've come out so far with my C&G 2382 17th Edition and C&G 2377 PAT testing. They still owe me various training towards C&G 2392 and then eventually a day of extra training and the opportunity to take that and get my 2392 certificate, they also owe me a CSCS card (although I already have the basic one anyway) a 1 day course and certificate in basic first aid, 200 pounds worth of tools in a starter tool kit and Full Scope Part P qualification. In addition to this for paying up front I was promised the BPEC Solar Photo-voltaic course, which iirc was 4 days.

 

[Engineer54]

I want to do it quicker than 4 years, it really doesn't take 4 years to learn this stuff,

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Yes it DOES!! What you have in the way of qualifications and experience does not equal Electrician, it doesn't even equal a Mate!!

As stated many times here in the past, if you can't do the time, and don't want to put the required effort in, then choose another trade to get into. Preferably one where you can't potentially harm anyone or burn the place down. If your stupid enough to think you can become an electrician in a matter of day's or a few weeks, you are only fooling yourself big time!!

No matter what you think or what you have been told, it DOES take years to become a proficient electrician and definitely proficient enough to go into peoples homes to undertake electrical work. How does the saying go, ...Fools Rush in Where Angels Fear to Tread!!

 

[Rampantchilli]

I want to do it quicker than 4 years, it really doesn't take 4 years to learn this stuff,

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Yes it DOES!! What you have in the way of qualifications and experience does not equal Electrician, it doesn't even equal a Mate!!

As stated many times here in the past, if you can't do the time, and don't want to put the required effort in, then choose another trade to get into. Preferably one where you can't potentially harm anyone or burn the place down. If your stupid enough to think you can become an electrician in a matter of day's or a few weeks, you are only fooling yourself big time!!

No matter what you think or what you have been told, it DOES take years to become a proficient electrician and definitely proficient enough to go into peoples homes to undertake electrical work. How does the saying go, ...Fools Rush in Where Angels Fear to Tread!!

Eh men to that, 5year apprenticeship plus another 20 years on job, and I'm still learning.

 

[Engineer54]

Eh men to that, 5year apprenticeship plus another 20 years on job, and I'm still learning.

It's crazy isn't it!! lol!!

He should look at what he's saying in that last post, ...They owe me a 1 Day course for this, another day's course for that, a 4 day course for something else!! What does he and others think they are going to learn on these short courses?? Not a mention anywhere of a Core qualification to any of these fast track courses, just mainly useless/meaningless add-on type courses.....

 

[wini1979]

Guys, although what you are saying may / is correct by the training community ethos of "Back in my day, when a course was a course" bottom line is he has been robbed, as I, from a company that we used to try and get into the trade stream (and in my case its not a matter of not bothering to put in the effort @Engineer54, Im in the military...have been for some 16 years and doing a job that most people couldnt handle in itself,let alone train with a distance learn company as its our only and get ready for Civilian life).

So do me and others a favour please visit Bringtradequalified2justice on facebook and like so others are not ripped off

 

[Rockingit]

wini1979 - clear some space in your PM's!!!

 

[Rockingit]

It's crazy isn't it!! lol!!

He should look at what he's saying in that last post, ...They owe me a 1 Day course for this, another day's course for that, a 4 day course for something else!! What does he and others think they are going to learn on these short courses?? Not a mention anywhere of a Core qualification to any of these fast track courses, just mainly useless/meaningless add-on type courses.....

Yes, I know it's a quandery, but in fairness to this thread these guys aren't discussing the 'quality' of training or which route into the industry is best - let's face it we all know what that is - but it sounds like they are getting the tough end of being ripped off, and that's a different matter. They've bought into a dream that doesn't exist at a heavy price.

 

[wini1979]

Done Rock please resend

 

[Arclightning]

Yea, I have received part of the goods.

I've come out so far with my C&G 2382 17th Edition and C&G 2377 PAT testing. They still owe me various training towards C&G 2392 and then eventually a day of extra training and the opportunity to take that and get my 2392 certificate, they also owe me a CSCS card (although I already have the basic one anyway) a 1 day course and certificate in basic first aid, 200 pounds worth of tools in a starter tool kit and Full Scope Part P qualification. In addition to this for paying up front I was promised the BPEC Solar Photo-voltaic course, which iirc was 4 days.

Steady on there, this isn't really about that, besides I already said that I believed the courses offering weeks of training were inadequate, I did say that it takes a lot more than 4 weeks, so don't make out like I said otherwise please, all I said was that it doesn't take 4 years, which I think is fair. I could do a PHD in less time than that if I did it full time. I am well aware that I am not an electrician or even a mate, I am more than happy to acknowledge that. I know it takes years to become a proficient electrician, but what if I were to say for example, 2 years ...that's years but it's half of 4 years. I wouldn't like to put a number on it to be honest, all I mean to say is, for me personally, I know it wont take 4, I have done enough technical work elsewhere to know that.

There is no need to jump on me like that at all. I know the industry has a lot of people in it who are quite ...touchy about apprenticeships and do not seem to believe anyone who is trying or has succeeded in getting into the industry any other way has any right to be there ...in some cases I have little doubt they are right, and no doubt an apprenticeship is ideal and had I been 18 I would be more than willing to undertake one, even if it took longer than 4 years. But at 28 and unemployed and trying to make a relatively quick career change, I don't have the time to do that. I know if given the right chances I could be a very good electrician, safety is not something I would fool around with and right now I would be the first to admit I am not close to proficient, but given the chance to get enough practical experience and the right technical training I would be and it wouldn't take me 4 years, believe me, not unless other people were slowing me down to fit in with their idea of how long it should take at least.

I won't say any more on this here as it will completely derail the thread, but I felt I had to respond to you, your outburst was rather ...dramatic.

Please don't miss-understand me though, I am not saying I would know it all in 4 years, I'm not a fool, I like to think I learn things everyday and I have no doubt as an electrician I would always be learning too.

It's crazy isn't it!! lol!!

He should look at what he's saying in that last post, ...They owe me a 1 Day course for this, another day's course for that, a 4 day course for something else!! What does he and others think they are going to learn on these short courses?? Not a mention anywhere of a Core qualification to any of these fast track courses, just mainly useless/meaningless add-on type courses.....

This isn't about the perceived or actual value, quality or thoroughness of these courses though, regardless of what you or I think about it. Fact is, me and a good number of other people have paid for something we aren't getting and it would appear are been stolen from at this point.

I did say earlier in the thread that I now understand that these courses really can't come close to actually making you an electrician (apparently people would rather get bent out of shape over a fairly innocuous comment I made), when I started down this path though I did not know that, I did not know anyone to ask about it and a bit of internet research seemed to suggest these courses were about the only way in for people too old to do apprenticeships.

I originally came to this forum seeking help and advice with becoming an electrician, all I really seem to get are people like you jumping on me and rubbishing everything I am trying to achieve, I am sorry if it offends you but an electrical apprenticeship is not open to me as it is for a school leaver. Should this really preclude me from being an electrician? ...or any of us in the same boat as me? ...it might not be traditional and it might not be the same way you did it, but with the right individual it can work, if given a chance by the people already in the industry. I admit though, this method is very reliant on the individual to make it work, since you aren't sat in a classroom and taught much at all and you aren't given a placement with a company so you can learn on the job. This lack of practical experience is the worst part really, it seems to be very difficult to get any, but if given that chance, I know I could make it work. I just need enough practical experience.

With many jobs of course you can join a company as a trainee and learn from those with experience as you go and your salary will reflect this. It seems to me that this doesn't really exist in the electrical industry as such, the only thing like this I have seen is the apprenticeship. Which as I have said, is pretty well cut off once you are over 25 years of age ...so how are you supposed to do it then?

It's very easy to mock and deride those trying to get in by methods other than apprenticeships, but it is nearly all people who simply can't do one due to their age, so why don't you offer up some solutions to this problem then ? ...you can't possibly be suggesting that the door closes after a point, surely? Despite wanting to do it more quickly than 4 years, if I could get onto an apprenticeship scheme, I would take it, as it would give me a much better grounding in the trade. Based on the research I did in 2011, the reason you can't really do one after 25 is because the funding the government provides stops for it at that point. I have seen some apprenticeship schemes in the passed that only wanted people upto 21.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath. I was frogmarched off of a course with them in December, and now I have been advised that they have moved offices with no forwarding address. I have looked up that the director of TQ also owns Future Training College Ltd, if that helps. I have contacted him through them, seeing as TQ are impossible to get in contact with. Hope that helps you?

find out where this `director` lives....
go round see him...

 

[Rampantchilli]

all i can say as regards to length of time to learn the 'trade', i had an apprentice for almost 2 years, we tested daily and had a simple effective routine that picked up everything. anyway his last day was almost as bad as his first, 2 years of testing and he wasnt learning, made some serious mistakes. this was about the tenth apprentice i have worked with

 

[Engineer54]

Steady on there, this isn't really about that, besides I already said that I believed the courses offering weeks of training were inadequate, I did say that it takes a lot more than 4 weeks, so don't make out like I said otherwise please, all I said was that it doesn't take 4 years, which I think is fair. I could do a PHD in less time than that if I did it full time. I am well aware that I am not an electrician or even a mate, I am more than happy to acknowledge that. I know it takes years to become a proficient electrician, but what if I were to say for example, 2 years ...that's years but it's half of 4 years. I wouldn't like to put a number on it to be honest, all I mean to say is, for me personally, I know it wont take 4, I have done enough technical work elsewhere to know that.

There is no need to jump on me like that at all. I know the industry has a lot of people in it who are quite ...touchy about apprenticeships and do not seem to believe anyone who is trying or has succeeded in getting into the industry any other way has any right to be there ...in some cases I have little doubt they are right, and no doubt an apprenticeship is ideal and had I been 18 I would be more than willing to undertake one, even if it took longer than 4 years. But at 28 and unemployed and trying to make a relatively quick career change, I don't have the time to do that. I know if given the right chances I could be a very good electrician, safety is not something I would fool around with and right now I would be the first to admit I am not close to proficient, but given the chance to get enough practical experience and the right technical training I would be and it wouldn't take me 4 years, believe me, not unless other people were slowing me down to fit in with their idea of how long it should take at least.

I won't say any more on this here as it will completely derail the thread, but I felt I had to respond to you, your outburst was rather ...dramatic.

Please don't miss-understand me though, I am not saying I would know it all in 4 years, I'm not a fool, I like to think I learn things everyday and I have no doubt as an electrician I would always be learning too.



This isn't about the perceived or actual value, quality or thoroughness of these courses though, regardless of what you or I think about it. Fact is, me and a good number of other people have paid for something we aren't getting and it would appear are been stolen from at this point.

I did say earlier in the thread that I now understand that these courses really can't come close to actually making you an electrician (apparently people would rather get bent out of shape over a fairly innocuous comment I made), when I started down this path though I did not know that, I did not know anyone to ask about it and a bit of internet research seemed to suggest these courses were about the only way in for people too old to do apprenticeships.

I originally came to this forum seeking help and advice with becoming an electrician, all I really seem to get are people like you jumping on me and rubbishing everything I am trying to achieve, I am sorry if it offends you but an electrical apprenticeship is not open to me as it is for a school leaver. Should this really preclude me from being an electrician? ...or any of us in the same boat as me? ...it might not be traditional and it might not be the same way you did it, but with the right individual it can work, if given a chance by the people already in the industry. I admit though, this method is very reliant on the individual to make it work, since you aren't sat in a classroom and taught much at all and you aren't given a placement with a company so you can learn on the job. This lack of practical experience is the worst part really, it seems to be very difficult to get any, but if given that chance, I know I could make it work. I just need enough practical experience.

With many jobs of course you can join a company as a trainee and learn from those with experience as you go and your salary will reflect this. It seems to me that this doesn't really exist in the electrical industry as such, the only thing like this I have seen is the apprenticeship. Which as I have said, is pretty well cut off once you are over 25 years of age ...so how are you supposed to do it then?

It's very easy to mock and deride those trying to get in by methods other than apprenticeships, but it is nearly all people who simply can't do one due to their age, so why don't you offer up some solutions to this problem then ? ...you can't possibly be suggesting that the door closes after a point, surely? Despite wanting to do it more quickly than 4 years, if I could get onto an apprenticeship scheme, I would take it, as it would give me a much better grounding in the trade. Based on the research I did in 2011, the reason you can't really do one after 25 is because the funding the government provides stops for it at that point. I have seen some apprenticeship schemes in the passed that only wanted people upto 21.

First off, no-ones trying to mock you, other than for coming out with ''it doesn't take 4 years'' to learn, study, gain experience and be proficient!! There are other way's than these useless training centres, a good example of this would be GLENNSPARK, who didn't go through the recognised apprenticeship system, but did put an awful lot of time and effort in, to gain both meaningful qualifications and experience!!


It doesn't really matter what your situation is, if your not prepared or can't, for one reason or another, put the necessary time and effort into learning this trade/profession, then find another career change. This is NOT the type of trade you can go about lowering standards, just to suite people such as yourself that fancy a change in direction. The very least you need to become an electrician, is a core qualification and experience under the supervision of a proficient electrician.

Now you can moan and be resentful all you like, that is, what is basically the ''very minimum'' required to become an electrician. It's pure lunacy to think that you are a competent person after a few weeks, having gained meaningless qualifications. You also don't gain experience by going into a customers home practicing what little you know from a totally inadequate training course.

The main argument here is, Why should a highly technical trade/profession, lower it's well proven standards of training to suite those that are not even prepared to put the time and effort in to learn the fundamentals. As i say, where there is a ''will'', there is always a ''way'' to become a proficient electrician!!

 

[Arclightning]

It's pure lunacy to think that you are a competent person after a few weeks, having gained meaningless qualifications. You also don't gain experience by going into a customers home practicing what little you know from a totally inadequate training course.

The main argument here is, Why should a highly technical trade/profession, lower it's well proven standards of training to suite those that are not even prepared to put the time and effort in to learn the fundamentals. As i say, where there is a ''will'', there is always a ''way'' to become a proficient electrician!!

I never at any point said you could be competent in a few weeks, I actually said you couldn't be, if you take the time to read what I actually wrote, so on that point we are in agreement. Secondly I am not asking, expecting or even wanting this trade to lower it's standards, quite the opposite, I am all for high standards and I would do my very best to live up to those standards, I realise a short course will not prepare me nearly well enough for this, I even said that too. All I said was that I believe it can be done without a 4 year apprenticeship, and that I would indeed like to be working as an electrician more quickly than that ...although I imagine still under the supervision of a more experience person. That's all, ...you just gunned for me over that comment about weather it takes 4 years or not ...I think you really got the wrong end of the stick though. You have inferred and assumed an awful lot from one line I wrote, then you have come at me, deciding you already know what kind of electrician I would be and proceeded to lecture me on the blindingly obvious.

You've got me all wrong, I am well aware of the shortcomings of the route I have taken now, I wasn't when I started mind but it became very apparent the first week I was at the training centre, that it would realistically take years to become competent and be able to work unsupervised. I am not really sure what to do about this right now (do you have any helpful suggestions? I am more than willing to listen them if you do), but again, this thread is being driven off topic badly, it was never about how good or bad these courses are it was just about Trade Qualified and how they seem to be trying to make off with a lot of people's money without delivering the training we paid for (weather that be good or bad training). I never wanted to get into an argument with anyone here about ...well anything really, but you did lay it on pretty thick because you didn't like one little comment I made, you weren't even particularly diplomatic about it either, which is what got on my nerves, you were quite rude to me and made all sorts of assumptions about me ...and I will not take that lying down. Can we drop this now please.

 

[wini1979]

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Hi all, Since posting on here and a Facebook page being created, its highlighted The magnitude of people that have also had no contact or explanation.

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[TQisaripoff]

Trade Qualified have left the students that trusted them high and dry. Some have paid their money in full and have not even had their first week of practical training, and have lost £5000. Trade Qualified have now set up as TRAIN A TRADE LTD. My advice? Avoid at all costs.

 

[Engineer54]

I never at any point said you could be competent in a few weeks, I actually said you couldn't be, if you take the time to read what I actually wrote, so on that point we are in agreement. Secondly I am not asking, expecting or even wanting this trade to lower it's standards, quite the opposite, I am all for high standards and I would do my very best to live up to those standards, I realise a short course will not prepare me nearly well enough for this, I even said that too. All I said was that I believe it can be done without a 4 year apprenticeship, and that I would indeed like to be working as an electrician more quickly than that ...although I imagine still under the supervision of a more experience person. That's all, ...you just gunned for me over that comment about weather it takes 4 years or not ...I think you really got the wrong end of the stick though. You have inferred and assumed an awful lot from one line I wrote, then you have come at me, deciding you already know what kind of electrician I would be and proceeded to lecture me on the blindingly obvious.

You've got me all wrong, I am well aware of the shortcomings of the route I have taken now, I wasn't when I started mind but it became very apparent the first week I was at the training centre, that it would realistically take years to become competent and be able to work unsupervised. I am not really sure what to do about this right now (do you have any helpful suggestions? I am more than willing to listen them if you do), but again, this thread is being driven off topic badly, it was never about how good or bad these courses are it was just about Trade Qualified and how they seem to be trying to make off with a lot of people's money without delivering the training we paid for (weather that be good or bad training). I never wanted to get into an argument with anyone here about ...well anything really, but you did lay it on pretty thick because you didn't like one little comment I made, you weren't even particularly diplomatic about it either, which is what got on my nerves, you were quite rude to me and made all sorts of assumptions about me ...and I will not take that lying down. Can we drop this now please.

So what do you think i'm saying here then??

As i say, where there is a ''will'', there is always a ''way'' to become a proficient electrician!!

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[Floody]

Want a proper route to become an electrician??

get to night college like the rest of us and stop taking these quick courses!!

You think your 5k is safe with these clowns?? They are no safer than PPI company's.