back box cutters

[davek]

Hi all
Has any one used the armeg back box cutters, are they worth buying on a rewire of a old house ie brick walls. Also are the chasing chisels any good. The house has some large old coving, which hopefully I can manage not damage too much.
Regards
Dave

 

[Rockingit]

Brick and block are fine, stone forget!! I've got one, and its OK but half the time its just as quick with a hammer and bolster.

 

[Andy78]

I've never heard any great things about box sinkers to be honest.
I always use a combination of lump hammer, bolster, scutch chisel, and sometimes if there's a lot to do the SDS chisel.
With the covings, take your chase out up to the coving then drill with your longest drill bit behind the coving within the chase. The longer and thinner the drill bit the better as it helps to get a bit of "bend" on it.

I hear lots of good things about chasing machines, but I personally don't use one.

 

[trev]

Box cutters are basically cack. They're great in soft blockwork but in anything else they're pretty much useless. Scutch bits in your SDS are the way forward.

 

[urbanmonkey]

they are not really worth the money to be honest, SDS chisel or by hand doesn't take alot longer. I have a worx handycut I use if there is a lot of chases up to do, a lot lighter than a chasing machine to be running up the wall all day. Generally that's by SDS chisel or hand/labourer too tho.

 

[Thewiz]

Angle grinder and sds chisel.. or chasing machine.

That's all we use its extremely neat n saves a lot of time

 

[Thewiz]

Oh recommend hoover 4 the chase machine

 

[VoltzElectrical]

Get a skirting chisel. It will get behind the coving as well! :biggrin:

Best £30 odd quid I have spent in a long time tools wise that is.

 

[amckay]

I bought a set from Toolstation a week ago. Cost £80 for single double boxes and circular cutter.
Its garbage and is only good for thermalite blocks.
Scutch bit in SDS or bolster n chisel will prevail.
I will be getting a refund Monday!

 

[VoltzElectrical]

Get a skirting chisel. It will get behind the coving as well! :biggrin:

 

[garnhamr]

Angle grinder and sds chisel.. or chasing machine.

That's all we use its extremely neat n saves a lot of time

used a 9" angle grinder in some nice red brick in someones kitchen once got about 300mm untill i couldn't ****in see, never again!

 

[Welchyboy1]

Box cutters are crap, just chain drill and knock out with scutch chisel

also wall chaser and vacuum

all the chasing gear youll ever need

used an angle grinder once years back, i think the dust still hasnt settled

 

[davek]

Cheers guy ordered the skirting sds bit will stick with my sds and pepper pot back boxes.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I've said it twice and I'll say it again,

Skirting board chisel, in fact I'll say it louder

SKIRTING BOARD CHISEL!!!!!!!!!

Well done on choosing it that man. When you've used it you'll know what I mean.


x

 

[PEG]

Consensus is about right,i think. Funny how tool show demos' are sinking boxes in a section of Battenburg...Being persistent in harder material,with box sinker,can result in much plastering or pushing bricks "through". Only item that impressed me,at a recent show,were a set of TCT hole cutters (Starrett style) which could be "stacked",resulting in an easy clear-out,they worked at slow speed,and materials at show,seemed real world enough. Glorious success was achieved at a friends,when we managed to sink two back to back 35mm switch boxes,in a brick-on-edge wall,at his 1937 semi. With hindsight,the hour two of us spent doing it was not an example of high productivity...:conehead:

 

[simpson93]

yeah agree that box sinkers are pretty pants, altho this is the best one ive used still not the best on hard material tho

 

[valleybilly]

Try using 1 on dry linning not !

 

[shanky887614]

Get a skirting chisel. It will get behind the coving as well! :biggrin:

Best £30 odd quid I have spent in a long time tools wise that is.

get a decent set of hones and it will outlive you.

ive fixed a couple drivers for myself and a mate, over the years they will pay for themselfs

 

[shanky887614]

used a 9" angle grinder in some nice red brick in someones kitchen once got about 300mm untill i couldn't ****in see, never again!

i only use a grinder for chasing.

usually its more to smoke the other trades out toto get a bit more room XD


a skirting chisel would be fine oon block but it wont work on heavy breeze/concrete blocks

i know ii broke the tip on my stanley and had to regrind

 

[VoltzElectrical]

i only use a grinder for chasing.

usually its more to smoke the other trades out toto get a bit more room XD


a skirting chisel would be fine oon block but it wont work on heavy breeze/concrete blocks

i know ii broke the tip on my stanley and had to regrind

That reminds me, I need to file out a couple of dings in mine. Wicked tool though!

 

[shanky887614]

That reminds me, I need to file out a couple of dings in mine. Wicked tool though!

get a dmt extra corse mate, you will be suprised how much metal it takes off

 

[VoltzElectrical]

get a dmt extra corse mate, you will be suprised how much metal it takes off

I would if I knew what DMT meant!

 

[7029 dave]

I've never heard any great things about box sinkers to be honest.
I always use a combination of lump hammer, bolster, scutch chisel, and sometimes if there's a lot to do the SDS chisel.
With the covings, take your chase out up to the coving then drill with your longest drill bit behind the coving within the chase. The longer and thinner the drill bit the better as it helps to get a bit of "bend" on it.

I hear lots of good things about chasing machines, but I personally don't use one.

That's my style too, used mech aids a few times, the dust was horrendous, not good in occupied.

 

[shanky887614]

I would if I knew what DMT meant!

its bassically a sheet of metal with diamonds impregnated into it, its gurarentied to a certain flatness.

you wont dish them like nornal water/oil stones so there good to learn on

www.amazon.com/DMT-D8X-Continuous-Diamond-Extra-Coarse/dp/B001DZOKNY