Code for Armour of Swa not being earthed...

[Flanders]

Not in the new colours in a three core , they are all phases.
The new convention that seems to have been adopted is to over sleeve the black for the earth in single phase.

Thats because we used to use the YELLOW as the earth and blue as the neurtal?black is the new yellow , as far as im conserned it does not matter what colours you use as long as you sleave them correctly , buts thats another thred

 

[telectrix]

wrong.... black is the new yellow.

 

[ruston]

Thats because we used to use the YELLOW as the earth and blue as the neurtal? grey is the new yellow , as far as im conserned it does not matter what colours you use as long as you sleave them correctly , buts thats another thred

It is lol.

 

[Flanders]

wrong.... black is the new yellow.

Yes just realised my mistake and edited post

 

[starni999]

Not in the new colours in a three core , they are all phases.
The new convention that seems to have been adopted is to over sleeve the black for the earth in single phase.

I was only avin a laff.

Serious point though, even if the armour was connected to earth, I'd still C2 it if the cores weren't over sleeved with the proper colours.


Cheers
CW

CW.

 

[Octopus]

I was only avin a laff.

Serious point though, even if the armour was connected to earth, I'd still C2 it if the cores weren't over sleeved with the proper colours.


Cheers
CW

CW.

That is a bit harsh.

In such a case it would only be "dangerous" if some unskilled person started working on the circuit without isolating it first! So C3 or just a comment for me.

 

[timbobelfast]

3 core Swa feeding ip rated plastic sockets outdoors.
He 3rd core of the Swa has been used as a cpc but the armour is not connected to earth; but has been made off with metal banjos. Would this warrant a C2 or C3? I'm assuming as the armour isn't extraneous a C3? ?
Thoughts please ...

Presumably these sockets are insulated so continuity in the swa will not be maintained if connected to earth at one end. The job needs done properly by linking the banjos at each socket as well!

 

[davesparks]

I was only avin a laff.

Serious point though, even if the armour was connected to earth, I'd still C2 it if the cores weren't over sleeved with the proper colours.


Cheers
CW

CW.

That is wrong, it is not potentially dangerous

 

[westward10]

C2 for lack of earth to the armour, C3 for conductor identification. Nothing to say which colour of core to be used as cpc or neutral as long as correctly identified.

 

[telectrix]

agreed, but it is usual practice to use the black ( sleeved gn/y ) as earth to dissociate the black from neutral. bloody stupid new colours. all the same in the dark.

 

[sparkzalot]

Thanks for the helpful input everyone. No cores were sleeved and u had that as a C3. In two minds about the armour but C2 is the winner!

 

[Flanders]

Thanks for the helpful input everyone. No cores were sleeved and u had that as a C3. In two minds about the armour but C2 is the winner!

That sounds about right to me. to rectify it though you will have to link the armer at each socket if not already connected and connect one end (normaly at the db)to earth

 

[westward10]

What new colours I always use white as the cpc.

 

[Pete999]

What new colours I always use white as the cpc.

I see a darkness coming on, maybe trouble ahead. Are you deliberately being controversial or doe it come naturally? You know exactly what people are trying to discuss, why throw a wobbly in the mix?

 

[Octopus]

I see a darkness coming on, maybe trouble ahead. Are you deliberately being controversial or doe it come naturally? You know exactly what people are trying to discuss, why throw a wobbly in the mix?

I think he's doing it on purpose! Just look at some of his other contributions to threads!

3 core SWA with white - when was that?

 

[Pete999]

I think he's doing it on purpose! Just look at some of his other contributions to threads!

3 core SWA with white - when was that?

Yep correctamundo Murdoch

 

[westward10]

Was only having a jest, my earlier post was serious. Sorry chaps.
White was a phase colour from many years ago I believe.

 

[Carl S]

Was only having a jest, my earlier post was serious. Sorry chaps.
White was a phase colour from many years ago I believe.

White was neutral if you go back far enough.

 

[telectrix]

White was neutral if you go back far enough.

even me and pete don't remember that and we were both apprentices to edison.

 

[westward10]

I don't go that far back but I seem to recall working on installations as a dogsbody in the early eighties and the existing 3 phases were red, white and blue with neutral being black?