DIYers/Builders...when will it end

[Dave 85]

Wow I just set a new personal record for most likes given in 2 mins.
Good to see the (previous) government campaign of suppressing common sense in the general public hasn't been entirly successful.

 

[prospark]

agree entirely, sparkies never be fully appreciated until the diy "sheds" stop doing how to guides!!!! and also stop these so called Part P courses as well. increasing number of young lads going to college to become a spark(nice to see),passing the course but with no real experience(sad really) as there has definately been a generation gap since i started.As we all know no substitute for experience,i'm still learning everyday after 26+ years at it.

 

[Golden_Boy]

agree entirely, sparkies never be fully appreciated until the diy "sheds" stop doing how to guides!!!! and also stop these so called Part P courses as well. increasing number of young lads going to college to become a spark(nice to see),passing the course but with no real experience(sad really) as there has definately been a generation gap since i started.As we all know no substitute for experience,i'm still learning everyday after 26+ years at it.

If that ever does happen whats to stop a DIYer from looking up the 17th or Part Pee or many of the other installation guides available on the net. Its not rocket science for goodness sake its bits of cable and a few accesories.

 

[Guest111]

correct me if I am wrong but I seem to recall that Wickes were stopped from producing" how to" leaflets on electrics a few years ago after concerns where raised by somebody, niceic or someone like that.at the end of the day if people are going to do sparking at home then they are going to do it,what worries me at times is the advice given by so called in store experts,in your favourite diy store I once heard an "expert" advise a customer who wished to extend his cable on his new water feature that a Duraplug 3 pin connector was the perfect thing for joining flexes outdoors!I also heard one plumbing expert advise on how to connect a gas cooker,and at no point did he mention doing a gas soundness test before and after carrying out the work.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

correct me if I am wrong but I seem to recall that Wickes were stopped from producing" how to" leaflets on electrics a few years ago after concerns where raised by somebody, niceic or someone like that.at the end of the day if people are going to do sparking at home then they are going to do it,what worries me at times is the advice given by so called in store experts,in your favourite diy store I once heard an "expert" advise a customer who wished to extend his cable on his new water feature that a Duraplug 3 pin connector was the perfect thing for joining flexes outdoors!I also heard one plumbing expert advise on how to connect a gas cooker,and at no point did he mention doing a gas soundness test before and after carrying out the work.

"somebody...NIC or someone like that".....so that would be the other scheme providers then.....

 

[Guest111]

"somebody...NIC or someone like that".....so that would be the other scheme providers then.....

sorry can,t remember who, it was a while ago and I have bigger things to worry about but I do remember reading it in an electrical mag somewhere.

 

[needasparks]

Thats a weekend sport, go out at the weekend to buy paint and while your there asking texas Tom a technical electrical question !
Just to give you a chuckle.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

look,....if folk want to play at electrics in/on their own homes/property......then let it be so.......as i have pointed out earlier in this thread....when it all goes arse up....then they can call in a proffesional......as far as the right for stores to trade freely without hinderence is concerned....well i think i have already made my thoughts clear on this as far as i am concerned........this does not extend to know nowts portraying themselves as competent or damn right dangerous cowboys passing off crap as compliency....

 

[Guest111]

look,....if folk want to play at electrics in/on their own homes/property......then let it be so.......as i have pointed out earlier in this thread....when it all goes arse up....then they can call in a proffesional......as far as the right for stores to trade freely without hinderence is concerned....well i think i have already made my thoughts clear on this as far as i am concerned........this does not extend to know nowts portraying themselves as competent or damn right dangerous cowboys passing off crap as compliency....

which is exactly the point I was trying to make,cocking vit up yourself is bad enough but when a so called expert tells you how to do it and its wrong well that no pun intended is shocking.

 

[vaughant]

Not even gonna read it all but yes home electrics have been subject to this for years so the answer to your question is it will never stop.
Sadly you can blame greed of previous generations on why people won't pay to have electrical work done that realistically is not difficult,wiring lights and sockets is simple let's be honest and like anything else in life there are plenty of so called "professionals" out there charging the earth (no pun intended) and doing poor work.
Too many horror stories of overcharging and scaremongering have left the domestic industry in the mess it is now,becoming a "spark" after 5 weeks doesn't help either,send one of those boys into my environment and they'll be gone the first time you mention "3 phase".
It needs sorting from the top down,legislation needs to be right and proper as in electrical goods can only be purchased upon reciept of a valid JIB card or such like.
A good point was made earlier though,fixing your own cars brakes,plumbing in a tap,knocking down a wall,chainsawing a tree,is wiring up a socket so different?
I wouldn't pay for any of the above jobs,I've repaired my own boiler a few times and guess what,no one died.
It's a tough game to prove the domestic industries shed it's conman image,I don't envy you boys at all.