Question about hot tubs

[Devonchris]

And are you seriously saying that we need to bond the ground? Can you explain to me how we would go about this? I will get my popcorn.

If the extraneous metal part is in the ground then its acting as a conductor between it and the ground. In this case just put a clamp on. Where you are in direct contact with the ground put a rod in. The effect is the same, you are ensuring that they are all at the same potential.

 

[Midwest]

Think he's still cooking his popcorn. Either that or he's watering his Pampas grass.

 

[Nigel]

Possibility of step voltages on wet ground?

From what? Everything is non-conductive?

 

[Wilko]

Will an RCD work without a neutral?

The local test button no, but the safety function yes. Also, with TT the rising N does not mean CPC has to rise. Any fault current that did still flow will travel via L through the RCD etc and return to transformer via rod or Us. So the RCD detects imbalance in L to N and trips in the usual way, hopefully .

 

[Nigel]

If the extraneous metal part is in the ground then its acting as a conductor between it and the ground. In this case just put a clamp on. Where you are in direct contact with the ground put a rod in. The effect is the same, you are ensuring that they are all at the same potential.

How can you make non-conductive materials the same potential? Hot tubs are plastic. The frame is plastic. The pipework is plastic.

Can someone please explain why we would TT PLASTIC

 

[telectrix]

How can you make non-conductive materials the same potential? Hot tubs are plastic. The frame is plastic. The pipework is plastic.

Can someone please explain why we would TT PLASTIC

and don'tforget to put a rod in the water.

 

[telectrix]

anyway electrics and hot tubs are perfectly safe. ask these guys:

 

[Wilko]

Can someone please explain why we would TT PLASTIC

Ha ha, good question. If the installation is double insulated then I guess it makes no odds.

 

[Nigel]

Ha ha, good question. If the installation is double insulated then I guess it makes no odds.

Exactly, which almost all hot tubs are. The issue only arises when there is other conductive things around such as steel conduit an outside tap. Then we would need to look at possibly changing things.

I suppose my point is every installation will be different and that is why blanket decisions like TT it makes us lazy sparks.

 

[Wilko]

BTW - I'm working on my Alzheimer prevention just now so my usual 12 posts or 12 minute warranty is void ...

 

[Midwest]

So, if the middle of all this raunchy frivolity, one whom is completely stark -------, as is everyone else by now (so I've heard), steps out of the tub with one leg onto the grass, (not Pampas) and the other leg in the watery tub, which has an electrical fault (dissertation on water conductivity) and there's differentiation between earth & true Earth, ones -------eds?

By the way essex's how's your Pampas?

 

[Nigel]

So, if the middle of all this raunchy frivolity, one whom is completely stark -------, as is everyone else by now (so I've heard), steps out of the tub with one leg onto the grass, (not Pampas) and the other leg in the watery tub, which has an electrical fault (dissertation on water conductivity) and there's differentiation between earth & true Earth, ones -------eds?

By the way essex's how's your Pampas?

How would the water become live?

Listen if your wife wants to come knocking then I am very happy to answer ;-)

 

[Midwest]

How would the water become live?

Listen if your wife wants to come knocking then I am very happy to answer ;-)

 

[Midwest]

Dear me, what banter.

 

[Nigel]

No regulation can solve stupidity.

 

[Midwest]

Listen if your wife wants to come knocking then I'm very happy to answer ;-)

The love of my life passed away several years ago now, thanks for reminding me.

 

[Nigel]

The love of my life passed away several years ago now, thanks for reminding me.

What was his name?

 

[telectrix]

What was his name?

sorry, essex. don't think that was in good taste mate.

 

[Midwest]

Ooopps hold it chaps, I was referring to my Mark IV Ford Cortina, her indoors (alive & well) preferred the Ford Capri MK III.

But you can seen how personal some on this forum can be. No offence taken essex (lower case)

 

[telectrix]

Ooopps hold it chaps, I was referring to my Mark IV Ford Cortina, her indoors (alive & well) preferred the Ford Capri MK III.

But you can seen how personal some on this forum can be. No offence taken essex (lower case)

you plonker rodney. my mk1v cortina died years ago, it was a 1977. was not a patch on the mkI i had before, a 1967 estate, uprated to GT.