RCD trip after board upgrade. Frustration who on my side? Who's on landlords? A rant!

[trev]

Re: RCD trip after board upgrade. Frustration who on my side? Who's on landlords? A r

Yeah thats about it.

I wouldn't check appliances on an EICR, but after changing a CU and adding RCD protection I do check that the important appliances all work without tripping RCD's, Fridges and freezers, oven, immersion, boiler, kettle (naturally the most important )

Maybe I should rethink my standards as I've always only checked the kettle
NB I'm not saying I use the kettle as an installation tester

 

[trev]

Re: RCD trip after board upgrade. Frustration who on my side? Who's on landlords? A r

Geordie humour eh??

Great minds Fatha, or is it the other one

 

[JiMMySnoW]

Re: RCD trip after board upgrade. Frustration who on my side? Who's on landlords? A r

I think what Dave means is that if you'd done a functional test on the oven you might have found it before all this but I have to say, if I'm doing a domestic EICR I don't go round checking the appliances so I'd have missed this one too.

Yer but who turns ovens on for 20 minutes to check lol I see what you are saying.

 

[JiMMySnoW]

Re: RCD trip after board upgrade. Frustration who on my side? Who's on landlords? A r

Of course, if it looked like a dodgy secondhand oven that's been stood dormant in a damp shed for years before the landlord bought it, I could suggest turning every element up to max, whipping out the earth conductor and standing well clear! Lol
after 5-10 mins the fault may clear... And at the worse there would be a bloody great hole in the faulty element or the remnants of a faulty stat controller splattered around the kitchen ;-)
..... But obviously that is well outside the scope of bs7671 ...

Haha that made me laugh.

 

[davesparks]

Re: RCD trip after board upgrade. Frustration who on my side? Who's on landlords? A r

Yer but who turns ovens on for 20 minutes to check lol I see what you are saying.

20mins is a bit long, if an element is going to go faulty when hot it usually shows itself within 2 minutes

 

[JiMMySnoW]

Re: RCD trip after board upgrade. Frustration who on my side? Who's on landlords? A r

Yeah thats about it.

I wouldn't check appliances on an EICR, but after changing a CU and adding RCD protection I do check that the important appliances all work without tripping RCD's, Fridges and freezers, oven, immersion, boiler, kettle (naturally the most important )

There was nothing there only the oven and it originally took 20 minutes to trip, would you have seriously stood there waiting for 20 minutes!

 

[davesparks]

Re: RCD trip after board upgrade. Frustration who on my side? Who's on landlords? A r

Well I was under the impression you test to the age of the installation, ie both works were carried out and should of been put on an RCD. Also maybe I am wrong, but who puts satisfactory when there is an electric shower with no RCD, just sends a shiver up my spine. I thought at the end of the day it comes down to the testers professional look at the regs are a guide.

Could I have said satisfactory then you think?

No you inspect and test to the current version of the regulations, and code accordingly. New works which don't comply receive the same codes as 30 year old installations with teh same non-compliances.

 

[JiMMySnoW]

Re: RCD trip after board upgrade. Frustration who on my side? Who's on landlords? A r

20mins is a bit long, if an element is going to go faulty when hot it usually shows itself within 2 minutes

I guess time will tell. I wouldn't of thought that even at 1 meg it would trip, but it did.

 

[moospark]

Re: RCD trip after board upgrade. Frustration who on my side? Who's on landlords? A r

What is an EICR pass certificate?

Between £100 - £250, bottom end wears a stetson, top end wears a flat cap, and doesn't guarantee a pass.

 

[JiMMySnoW]

Re: RCD trip after board upgrade. Frustration who on my side? Who's on landlords? A r

No you inspect and test to the current version of the regulations, and code accordingly. New works which don't comply receive the same codes as 30 year old installations with teh same non-compliances.

So a shower just on a mcb you would code c3?
Looks like I am too harsh then.