The need to enclose wago connectors in a box

[ARCElectrical]

Hi all,
I am a BIG fan of the Wago connectors, but am I required to enclose them in a box? They seem to me, to be very well insulated in themselves....

????

 

[jeremy]

The insulation isn't protected, hence the need for a box

 

[cdavies33]

Insulation tape??? LOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

 

[ARCElectrical]

OK. If I understand you correctly, It is a requirement to make sure the coloured insulation is enclosed in the box?

 

[truckster]

OK. If I understand you correctly, It is a requirement to make sure the coloured insulation is enclosed in the box?

Yes, the coloured bit is the insulation, the grey bit is the sheath. The cables themselves should also be clipped or clamped to ensure that no strain is put upon the terminations

 

[Adam W]

You need the enclosure for mechanical protection, like cable sheath.

 

[ARCElectrical]

Are you telling me that the sheath of a 2.5mm T&E cable provides mechanical protection? Surely not..

 

[mickys86]

In the regs it states that single insulated cables need mechanical protection. Enough said.

All views are my own, remember I'm just the apprentice

 

[ARCElectrical]

BS 7671:2008 Ammended to 2011 Reg:521.10.1 States Non-sheathed cables for fixed wiring shall be enclosed in conduit, ducting or trunking. This requirement does not apply to a protective conductor complying with Section 543.
Non-sheathed cables are permitted if the cable trunking system provides at least the degree of protection IPXXD or IP4X.

Seems very clear now, thanks micky86.

I can only conclude that the outer sheath of a 2.5mm csa T&E is considered to be a "Cable Trunking System" providing at least IPXXD or IP4X.

 

[telectrix]

wx2 steel trunking buried in mrs jones's stting room walls, can you?ell, you can't have 2

 

[Mr.Ian]

Wago do boxes with inbuilt cable grips don't they?

 

[Guitarist]

Wago do boxes with inbuilt cable grips don't they?

You can use chocblox, wagobox or line enclosures. If you don't like any of those, use an adaptable box. Loads of ways to safely enclose a wago connector.

Edit... And yes, they must be enclosed somehow.

 

[Adam W]

Are you telling me that the sheath of a 2.5mm T&E cable provides mechanical protection? Surely not..

Yes. What else would it be for?

Are you telling me the name of your company is "Arce Electrical"?
Shirley Knott...

 

[Guitarist]

Are you telling me that the sheath of a 2.5mm T&E cable provides mechanical protection? Surely not..

Not the best mechanical protection, granted. Mechanical protection all the same....

 

[mickys86]

BS 7671:2008 Ammended to 2011 Reg:521.10.1 States Non-sheathed cables for fixed wiring shall be enclosed in conduit, ducting or trunking. This requirement does not apply to a protective conductor complying with Section 543.
Non-sheathed cables are permitted if the cable trunking system provides at least the degree of protection IPXXD or IP4X.

Seems very clear now, thanks micky86.

I can only conclude that the outer sheath of a 2.5mm csa T&E is considered to be a "Cable Trunking System" providing at least IPXXD or IP4X.

No problem.... Now if only there was a thanks button..... Haha

 

[ARCElectrical]

Yes. What else would it be for?

Are you telling me the name of your company is "Arce Electrical"?
Shirley Knott...

Sure is. My initials are A R C. What are the chances...

 

[ARCElectrical]

Yes. What else would it be for?

Apparently IP4X.

 

[Risteard]

I can only conclude that the outer sheath of a 2.5mm csa T&E is considered to be a "Cable Trunking System" providing at least IPXXD or IP4X.

No, it is a sheath, hence why the Regulations refer to "non-sheathed cables". Therefore that does not apply to sheathed cables, such as twin and skin.

 

[Steve_P]

So . . . . .

Asking this another way, is it ok to fit a jb with the insulation showing on the outside or with the guards in the wrong place? Course not so what's the difference?

 

[Top Cat]

Wago do boxes with inbuilt cable grips don't they?

Wasn't there a song about that?