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Hi

I have my 17th regs next month, full course.

Could you tell me what parts of the book you are tagging for quick reference.. What parts are the tutor telling you to tab?

I have brought an exam simultor of the 2382, and want to practice.

Just want to tab the right sections of the book that will help the most.

Thanks all
 
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Spudnik

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In all honesty you need to tab ALL of it :D

The GOLA exams are pot luck as everyone has different questions in the exam room.

Your tutor should be able to point you in the right direction, however, when i did mine, i wasnt asked ANY questions on what our tutor told us to highlight.

However, i would suggest disconnection times, EFLI, special locations, PV supplies.

Thats a good start anyway and im sure some others may have some pointers!
 
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sparkymaz

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i would also suggest tagging Installation methods and de-rating factors pages ie. Ca Cg Ci . I have also tagged current carrying capacity and volt drops for the different cable types across the bottom of the book. Basically use these tags as a way of splitting this massive boring book up a bit. as long as you mark key areas, then all other info is that bit easier to find. You could use the index but im sure you know how frustrating that can be
 
It's a good idea just to spend an evening or two browsing through in order to familiarize youself with the layout in general to improve the speed at which you are able to navigate the BS during the exam and therefore save time.

My tags were numerous, but would definitely say start by tagging definitions and any appendix you think will help you. The periodic inspection form on p340 was useful as a quick reference and memory jogger I found also.
 
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WarrenG

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Sid - In the back of your Regs book (notes) do yourself a quick reference list for the areas that you think you are important and you might need reference to i.e:

  • Disconnection Times (Table 52.2) P46
  • Disconnection Times Fuses / MCB P243-251
  • Earth Loop Impedance Tables P46-49
  • Volt Drop P358
Better to list it A-Z or lowest to highest page downwards.

When a question pops up you can get to it quickly without trawling through the index and because the regs book is a working document (like highlighting) you can make reference in your notes.

Personally I think putting the tags on the pages can get messy and hinder you but thats only my opinion.

Hope this helps! ;)

Warren
 
Be clear on:

Maximum disconnection times, table 41.1
Max Zs 4.12
Max EFLI, table 41.6
De-rating
Read section 7 thoroughly to answer by memory.
App 3.

But it's really about how well you know you way around the book.
 
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daver

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Magic Sid

Little tip. I bought these 2 books

Technical Training Solutions - Amicus Electricians Guide Books

Which are allowed in the exam room. For most of the questions the referencing is easier. Table reference at front is good. For my exam, most of the answers came from here. It was only certain ones that i needed full 17th edition.
For £12 for the 2 its a no brainer. And easy to carry round on site.
I also had 5 question with the answer 30ma RCD
Good Luck Fella
 
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Penfield

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I agree with WarrenG tags just get confusing, I found it to be a lot quicker to use the index and then speed read the relevant section.
 

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WarrenG is right. In the notes section at the back of the regs write the title and page number of all the charts you need,
ie thermal efects 52.2 Pg 104
Ambient temp 4B1 Pg 267.

There's half a dozen or so of blank pages so plenty of space, also I assume you will be going through some old papers, any question that you come across that you find dificult, make a note with a relevent heading and page number.
 
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trebor

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the 2382 exams are based on look up answers therefore your tutor should have taught you how to use the book quickly to find answers

eg. picking out keywords in the question such as `disconnection` `protection``additional protection` etc

conversion of words such as fuse or mcb to `protective device`

how to find tables quickly eg any table without a letter is in the main part of the book eg table 41.2 is in part 4 chapter 41
tables with letters say 4D5 are in the appendices
tag the first table in each section so that you know the others are after the tag as some are way into the chapter, saves time thumbing through

the weighting is on part 4,5 and 7 which equates to over 60% of the questions, 60% and above is a pass

study the tables in chapter 41 and mark the 5 sec disc 41.4 as distibution circuits, remember 0.4 secs 41.2 for ALL final up to and inc 32 amps with the exception of distribution circuits

the 2382 iet/c&g exam success book may be worth buying

the questions are random and follow roughly the standard form start to finish, the singly most important thing is to read the question carefully, look for the `not` `is` `allowed` `not allowed` `are` `are not`phrases in the question

when can a water pipe be used as an earth electrde ?

what is the max tabulated Zs for a 20 amp bs88-6 protected circuit feeding a 2 way board in a garage ?

what colour is the protective conductor for a felv supply?

and finally the only book allowed in the exam room is BS7671 together with a blank notepad, a non programmable calculator and a pen

ps make sure your calculator a square root function
 
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daver

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and finally the only book allowed in the exam room is BS7671 together with a blank notepad, a non programmable calculator and a pen

ps make sure your calculator a square root function[/quote]

Beg to differ. The Amicus Books are allowed in the exam room. My College will give you note paper in the exam room and do not allow you to bring your own.
 
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supersparkie

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the latest from C&G is that all 17th edition books taken into exams are clean, no writing no highlighting no tags, just the book as bought
 
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mkmukok

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the latest from C&G is that all 17th edition books taken into exams are clean, no writing no highlighting no tags, just the book as bought
That`s correct but nobody is checking your book,
I have passed today with Able skills,
and I think spending a £450 for the course is wasting money.
Just book an exam, get some mock exam papers from e-bay,
practice couple of days at home and get it...easy!
Pass mark is 60% only...
 
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claire_r

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all i tabbed were the chapters and appendices...and zs values and trip times ...I did try to tab more when I did my regs exam but it just ended up being too confusing and I found I used the index more than the tabs anyway! I wrote in the back any tables I may need and where I could find them like correction factors etc....
 
I found using the index was the best way for me even though i had tags everywhere.
its quite easy to reference specific areas using the index and all i did was highlight any key words or figures within these areas on the actual page with a highlighter so they jumped out at me instead of searching the text. best of luck;)
 
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