Commercial site query.

[Dave Appleby]

Yes, no kicking Bambi .
But with the building’s electrical installation in poor condition it’s return to service will not be straightforward. My thought is to isolate the installation and start dead testing to see what might actually be safe to energise.

Thanks Wilko.

My thinking currently is to start from scratch.

I think I need to sit down with a coffee and gently break the bad news.

Wish me luck.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Isolate everything, new installation for the food bank, but don't forget access lighting and possibly emergency lighting, oh and smoke alarms.

 

[Dave Appleby]

Good call

 

[Timbo]

Tell the Pastor that he has a duty of care to his flock.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Can't resist.

Pastor with a Carbonara sauce.

 

[Vortigern]

Don't forget to have a handover folder/book and get them to identify at an early stage the person responsible for following routines you will detail to them through the hand over. I am thinking about log books for fire and emergency lights testing routines. And of course there is the manufacturers information for every bit of equipment you install with all the leaflets. It ends up being a lot of information. I have just rewired a mosque and trying to get a "responsible person" to take on the hand over is like trying to herd cats.

 

[Dave Appleby]

Don't forget to have a handover folder/book and get them to identify at an early stage the person responsible for following routines you will detail to them through the hand over. I am thinking about log books for fire and emergency lights testing routines. And of course there is the manufacturers information for every bit of equipment you install with all the leaflets. It ends up being a lot of information. I have just rewired a mosque and trying to get a "responsible person" to take on the hand over is like trying to herd cats.

Thanks

 

[Dave Appleby]

Just like to say thank you everyone for the advice.

We sat down yesterday and went through everything I could think of with the input from here.

Poor guy has a lot to think about especially with all the structural work he wants doing.

I am currently typing up my observations and recommendations for him.

I have also given name of a general contractor I sub for occasionally. I'm thinking that may help.

Again. Thanks all.

Regards
Dave

 

[Vortigern]

TBH clients such as you describe I usually recommend them to get an architect. At first glance this seems like an expensive thing to do. However in terms of co-ordination of trades and a plan that fits together well with a gantt chart saves a lot of heartache and mistakes. As well they know decent trades and can organise them. Normally if you try to manage a project of this complexity mistakes (usually expensive) are made and trades collide like the plasterer has sealed of the ceiling so you can't now do the wiring. The really great thing is that the architect is professionally indemnified unlike a lot of builders who just fold when sued.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Architects are rubbish as project managers, in fact they are responsible for most of the major claims that contractors make, hence the existence of the Institute of Project Mangers, they are also responsible for the existence of the CDM Regulations, because they did not know how to prevent foreseeable Health and Safety Risk in the Construction Industry.