NICEIC Certification Scheme Cscs card for NICEIC QS

[vxwestie]

I'm searching through the threads looking to see which card I'm entitled to as a QS but can't find a definitive answer.
Like many on here, I have c&g 2360 1,2 and C, AM1&2 and the more recent 17th edition,
has anyone applied and got a sensible result recently?

 

[Plonker 3]

Being a QS doesn't mean anything to ECS, it's just based solely on your qualifications.

 

[Maddison]

I think you'll just get graded as an electrician with the tickets you've listed. But we are talking about the jib here so I think labourer is more realistic

 

[Johnuk]

u need nvq 3 so you will be graded as labourer or trainee

 

[MDJ]

I'm searching through the threads looking to see which card I'm entitled to as a QS but can't find a definitive answer.
Like many on here, I have c&g 2360 1,2 and C, AM1&2 and the more recent 17th edition,
has anyone applied and got a sensible result recently?

You will definately get your Approved Electricians grade card with those Qualifications. There is section in the new ECS/ JIB application form which allows a QS to have that printed on the reverse of the card. First step, ask the ECS/JIB to send you a application form, and go from there, you are definately qualified for an approved card with those C&Gs you have obtained.

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u need nvq 3 so you will be graded as labourer or trainee

Nonsence, he has 236 parts 1 and 2 and AM1 and AM2 plus the C Certificatate and 17th, He will get approved status for sure.

 

[dazza1981]

u need nvq 3 so you will be graded as labourer or trainee

NO you need nvq 3 to be graded as an electrician!!

 

[MDJ]

I think you'll just get graded as an electrician with the tickets you've listed. But we are talking about the jib here so I think labourer is more realistic

Please explain this Maddy?

 

[Maddison]

Please explain this Maddy?

Just my bad go at sarcasm there mate. Presume parts 1-2 are equivalent to NVQ just out dated version ?. Not sure what C is.

 

[MDJ]

Just my bad go at sarcasm there mate. Presume parts 1-2 are equivalent to NVQ just out dated version ?. Not sure what C is.

C cert is even higher again

 

[wozz]

by the sounds of it your quals predate NVQ, from what ive heard they may ask for a reference if you dont have a NVQ. You could also go for technician where they will definitely need a reference.

 

[Richard Burns]

From the ECS Card requirements, to obtain a gold card one choice is:

Craft card Electrician (Gold Card)

Requirements are:
Apprenticeship Deeds or Completion Certificate

OR City and Guilds 2360 parts one and two

OR full 2351

OR 2330 Levels two and three AND NVQ Level 3 in Electrotechnical Services (Electrical Installation – Buildings and Structures) (City and Guilds 2356),

OR Level 3 NVQ Diploma in Installing Electrotechnical systems and equipment (Buildings, Structures and the environment) (City and Guilds 2357)


So it is very clear that if you have 2360 parts one and two you can get a gold card

 

[vxwestie]

Thanks guys. I'll see what happens. I've been running my own business for 20yrs now, so a reference wouldn't be straight forward...

the old threads I was reading were full of references to people being given trainee cards, but were old.....

Truth is, I can't really be arsed with it, but even a couple of my small builders are now beginning to ask for the card...

 

[Plonker 3]

Just get the any card you can. It will only be asked for H&S reasons.

If you dont want it to say labourer or trainee on it just get a generic CSCS card.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I'm searching through the threads looking to see which card I'm entitled to as a QS but can't find a definitive answer.
Like many on here, I have c&g 2360 1,2 and C, AM1&2 and the more recent 17th edition,
has anyone applied and got a sensible result recently?

NIC approved contractor is an accreditation status....not a qual.

 

[MDJ]

Just my bad go at sarcasm there mate. Presume parts 1-2 are equivalent to NVQ just out dated version ?. Not sure what C is.

In the old days if you got your C Cert you could apply for your JIB card at 23 and would get it, without it you needed an employer to sign the form from the JIB saying you were competant to hold that grade, I know, I know, the old days, all has changed now I am aware of that, hope that answers the question fella, I was on the Iphone earlier and find it hard to type on that so limit my respnses, hense the limited reply.

 

[vxwestie]

The C course was what made real sparks ;-)

 

[Guest55]

contrary to earlier posts , you ( the OP) will recieve a standard electrician grade gold card.
back door entry without nvq L3 is still available for those originally trained before 1996 ( thanks Richo )
and if you supply a sponsorship letter from your employer , the JIB with stamp on the card your QS status & scheme membership.
however that badge only remains valid whilst in that job only.


all of which reminds me to get the NEW 2396 LEVEL 4 cert printed on my card**

**attention whoreing now over. ;-)

 

[7029 dave]

I knew a guy, yes a long time ago, never got any quals in his life, BUT was graded by the JIB approved status.!!

 

[Guest55]

I knew a guy, yes a long time ago, never got any quals in his life, BUT was graded by the JIB approved status.!!

i call bull.
did you see the card ?
;-)

 

[7029 dave]

i call bull.
did you see the card ?
;-)

Hi Biff, yes 100%, the guy had years of on site experience, worked for a big outfit in bedford, must of got a very good reference from the company, I could not believe it. lol

 

[Richo77]

I think you needed to do your 2360 part 2 before 1996. My cousin did his then and got his jib card. I did my 2360 part 2 in 1997, therefore I had to have a NVQ 3 to get a Electricians card. I also had my 2391 so I got approved status. Without the NVQ I was classed as a labourer. So I think 1996 was the cut off. I missed it by 1 year.

 

[MDJ]

Hi Biff, yes 100%, the guy had years of on site experience, worked for a big outfit in bedford, must of got a very good reference from the company, I could not believe it. lol

Agree I have met several Sparks who never went to college with lots of experience with a JIB card, it was not called a gold card back then but hey so what.

 

[ipf]

A cert - electrician grade (very basic IMO)
B cert - approved electrician grade
C cert - technician grade

A quite easy system to understand, but took a lot of hard work, knowledge and common sense to aquire all three.

 

[7029 dave]

C cert is even higher again

I found the 2361 parts 1 an 2 enough for me Mike, all that schooling was bloody hard. lol

 

[MDJ]

Yes I believe the 2396 is the watered down version of the C certificate lmao, Oh afternoon Biff :rofl:

 

[ipf]

Yes I believe the 2396 is the watered down version of the C certificate lmao, Oh afternoon Biff :rofl:

Aye, extremely much so.

 

[MDJ]

I found the 2361 parts 1 an 2 enough for me Mike, all that schooling was bloody hard. lol

Yep the 236 part 2 was quite difficult your right, the part 1 though was like the part p exams today lol haha

 

[ipf]

u need nvq 3 so you will be graded as labourer or trainee

Looks like I'm going to be graded a labourer, then.....or a trainee :35: :bigcry: :cowboy: :fuk2:

 

[ipf]

Yep the 236 part 2 was quite difficult your right, the part 1 though was like the part p exams today lol haha

Hang on a minute....you didn't get a lolipop for getting your A (1) cert, even though it was a doddle....then.

 

[MDJ]

Hang on a minute....you didn't get a lolipop for getting your A (1) cert, even though it was a doddle....then.

No only a clip around the ear for getting a credit and not an overal distinction, I did mess around a bit at tech though lol

 

[ipf]

No only a clip around the ear for getting a credit and not an overal distinction, I did mess around a bit at tech though lol

First year? I'll excuse that. lol